I am really suprised how humble and forgiving the folks on the forum are especially towards the Fodera guys... For me this is quiete the bomb.... this is the financial crisis soap bubble equivalent in the bass building world.... Not that Mike´s posts did reveal anything new....basically we had knew all that stuff before...but now its officiall! That´s crazy stuff. Fodera Fclef and BW are all the same slouches to me!! Sorry.... Come on how many times have Vinny and Joey claimed their NYC Basses are made in Brooklyn. Now they are made in Japan.... I would not be surprised if they are finally made in south east asia now ....maybe with a little help of childrens´ labor ....and sold with a 4000% margin. ;-) that´s pretty messed up....and thats surely not the way to do business. I have personally never had a great appreciation for Foderas overpriced and overly decorated in cheesy burly spalted woods pieces of work....but this is too much. And puts them out of the business for me.