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Follow up to SCALE PRIMER

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by jazzbo, Jan 10, 2003.

  1. jazzbo


    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    Well, as everyone here knows, I have no shame with plugging the lesson I have posted here at Talkbass.

    Here it is again: :D

    <a href="http://www.talkbass.com/html/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=31"><img src="http://www.stuffmagazine.com/mayhem/stuff_stuff/wallpaper/babyfrog_800x600.jpg" width="175" height="150" border="0" alt="Everyone must click on BABYFROG. Nothing but good could possibly come from clicking on the FROG. CLICKITY CLICK. Get CANDY by clicking on BABYFROG!"></a>

    I would like to write a follow up to this lesson, but I would be interested in getting some feedback as to exactly what topic people most want to see. If I can get some good ideas, I'll start a poll to vote for a winner. Remember, it should be a good basic theory topic that would benefit players from all styles, and deal with a relatively broad topic.

    Thank you everyone.
  2. geshel


    Oct 2, 2001
    Think you got that last sentence mixed up a bit - it's the Fmaj triad which is at the fourth scale posiiton of the C major scale.

    Also I'd say "at" instead of "as" the fourth scale position.
  3. jazzbo


    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA

    Yeah, my bad.
  4. christoph h.

    christoph h.

    Mar 26, 2001
    some topics that pop up all the time:

    - ideas on how to practice modes/scales (= the practical approach to your article)
    - sight reading
    - "what to practice" and "ideas for my practice
    regimen" seem to be in high demand.
    - related to that: efficient practicing
    - ear training/transcribing


    by the way: do you have that babyfrog picture
    at a higher resolution (=large)?
  5. Sight reading definitely, since the disappearance of the Libster, I havn't been able to really get around to it as much as I'd like to.

    I have a teacher to teach me now, but I think it'd be useful for everyone.
  6. John, Gard or Gabu? (sorry!!) has made the libster re-birth!

    I think the link is: www.libster.tk

    im not sure, sorry. But it's out there!! *shifty eyes*

  7. moley


    Sep 5, 2002
    Hampshire, UK
    I think you could say more about intervals - as there can easily by confusion over them. You can talk about major, minor, diminished and augmented intervals. There's been confusion in the past over augmented 2nds/minor 3rds etc. You can talk about perfect intervals too, and how 4ths 5ths and octaves are perfect rather than major etc. etc. etc.

    You could also cover more chord extensions e.g. 9ths, 11ths, 13ths. In fact, what might be useful is a list of all the types of chords you can think of - and how they're composed, with notational examples in C (or whatever). E.g.

    Major - 1 3 5 - e.g. C
    Minor - 1 b3 5 - e.g. Cm, C-
    Diminished - 1 b5 b5 - e.g. Cdim, C(diminished symbol)
    Diminished 7th - 1 b3 b5 bb7 - e.g. Cdim7, C(diminished symbol)7
    Augmented - 1 3 #5 - e.g. Caug, C+
    Augmented 7th - 1 3 #5 b7 - e.g. C7+


    7th - 1 3 5 b7 - e.g. C7
    Major 7th - 1 3 5 7 - e.g. Cmaj7, C(triangle)
    9th - 1 3 5 b7 9 - e.g. C9

    etc. etc. etc.

    People ask questions in GI about what a 13th chord is, etc. and what certain notational symbols mean - they wouldn't need to ask if you could put it all in your follow-up lesson.

    You could also cover functional harmony, e.g. 2-5-1 etc.
  8. Howard K

    Howard K

    Feb 14, 2002
    Well, I reckon the natural follow up would be a lesson on chord progression, the whole tonic/ sub-dominant/ dominant business? Some basics on chord substitions, inversions, root motion and all that kinda stuff would be useful in almost any style surely?

    ...or maybe 16th note picking techniques on a drop-tuned floppy B string at 180bpm? Grrr, Raaah etc, etc...
  9. moley


    Sep 5, 2002
    Hampshire, UK
    Oh, and don't forget G# locrian...
  10. Howard K

    Howard K

    Feb 14, 2002
    i'm with you there... the chord extensions and symbols thang would be handy... but the intervals might be a bit of a step back from the 1st lesson??

    also, this would fit in well with the subject of progression, resolve etc... e.g. using a dim7 chord without any idea of how to resolve it is not neccessarily obvious... some sort of context around basic extensions and what they do to the chord and progression might be intrestin'?

    ...and if after reading 1st lesson someone hasnt grapsed what a major third sounds like then they'll need to keep on practicing at that level anyway me thinks.

    the thread moley's talking aboot was interesting, but in the end min3rd/aug2nd sound the same, so i dont think it's essential knowledge for the average player???
  11. JazZ-A-LoT


    Jan 5, 2003
    Can anyone play classical thump????
  12. JazZ-A-LoT


    Jan 5, 2003
    joking :)
  13. leanne


    May 29, 2002
    Rochester, NY
    I agree...


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