For all of you that think I hate MarkBass.....

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by fenderhutz, Dec 7, 2007.

  1. My Little Mark II arrived today and I have spent about 15 minutes with it.

    I can say right now MarkBass cabs do not represent this head well at all. They make this head sound thin and papery. (Many TB'ers have also said this, MarkBass rep please make a note)

    I had to tweak the EQ a bit to get a tone I liked for my passive Fender Jazz.

    With the Ibanez RDGR I just bought with basslines, I set it flat with a little of the VPF (edited) and it sounded pretty good.

    My cab is an Avatar B410 NEO 4ohm.

    More to come.
  2. Peter Murray

    Peter Murray Commercial User

    Dec 13, 2005
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    Marketing and artist relations for Xvive (ex-Markbass, ex-Supro, ex-Pigtronix)
    Glad to hear of your purchase.

    I will make note of your opinions on our cabs, just as I make note of the many opinions I hear every day that are in complete disagreement to yours. It's interesting how different people can hear completely opposite things... Obviously, you are completely welcome to your opinion--I just hope it was based on real experience, ideally experience on a gig. There was another thread recently about Markbass cabs, and it was interesting to note that very few of the people with negative comments had actually used a Markbass cabinet on a gig. Meanwhile, those who used them on gigs were raving about them.

    The last knob before the master is the VPF, or variable preshape filter.

    Enjoy your new amp.

  3. didier


    Aug 4, 2005
    you're gonna put the MB on a waterboard treatment?
  4. Thanks Peter. Edited my post.

    I used to own the Ernie Ball Audiophile HD-500 and really liked it but found it underpowered.

    Also Peter, Ashdown speakers in their earlier cabs had "Made in Italy" speakers/cab. Does MarkBass use the same speakers and/or did MarkBass (at the time) make these for Ashdown?

    I have wondered this.
  5. WoodyG3


    May 6, 2003
    Colorado, USA
    Just wondering where you tried the Markbass cab as opposed to the Avatar? Can you give some general impressions on how the Avatar sounds compared to the Markbass? I'm thinking of getting an extension cab for my little CMD 121P combo, and had considered both Markbass and Avatar, among others.

    Thanks for your opinions so far. :)
  6. wingnut


    Apr 18, 2007
    Las Vegas Nv.
    Welcome to the dark side... I did use my MB cab in gig situations and still found it lacking, not to mention the fact that I blew a speaker. However I have heard that the particular cab I had (102P) was a little on the weak side when they first came out, (per the sales rep at GC). If you get a chance, check out EA cabs, they worked out best for me.
  7. r379


    Jul 28, 2004
    Dallas, Texas
    Which MB cab or cabs did you try?
  8. Single 12
    Single 12 combo
    2x10 Combo
    610 ported
    410 ported

    All at GC for about 10 minutes per cab, I listed the combos due to them having essentially a LM II for the amp section.
  9. I am going back down for another 15-30 minutes. Be back in a few.
  10. bugbass


    Apr 8, 2004
    I absolutely love my MC cabs, the CL106 is simply my best cab so far.
    A 15" CL cab would be great.
  11. Haven't tried the MB 15 yet.
  12. bugbass


    Apr 8, 2004

    The 410 front-ported sounded thin? Thats about as far away from my experience you can get. Rather thick and punchy IMO/IME
  13. CapnSev


    Aug 19, 2006
    Coeur d'Alene
    I'll hop on the wagon and mention that I used the front-ported 410 cab at a blues jam gig last week with the LMKII head, and was not impressed.

    I am, however, a big fan of the LMKII on my Bag End S-15XD.
  14. Okey Dokey.

    I got a new bass this week and had to set it up to my specs. It was once owned by Rufus Philpot. Basslines, Active, 5 string RDGR.

    All settings flat except: Gain was about 10 o'clock, Low was about 10 o'clock and VPF was about 12 o'clock. VLE off. Master at about 11 o'clock.

    Again 4ohm Avatar B410 4ohm cab. I will add I just got rid of a GK 1001 RB II I was playing through this cab.

    First impression. VPF adds some great punch to slapping. Add too much you sound like Fieldy though. About halfway or a little less is good for that bass.

    After a good 5-7 mintues tweaking the sound and tuning up after setting up the action a little bit, I caught myself in slap heaven. Every note.....full rich, but not what I would say warm. Full and Rich is a better term I guess. My Mesa 400+ was warm goodness.

    Off to chords. I dropped the VPF back just a bit and chords sounded full again. But I noticed some odd natural compression in this head. Does it have some sort of limiter in the gain circuit? I wasn't hitting the gain light too badly but I noticed tiny bit of "compression" when I hit a note hard. In a live situation it would probably be a blessing but in a studio with a cab mic'd I could see this as a nuisance.

    Off to my Fender Jazz. Basslines Hot and Vintage. No preamp, No active circuits. I found something about 90% close to a usable tome that sounded good to me. I need to spend more time with it and tweak it some more before I feel comfortable commenting. I know with my GK 700 RB II or GK 1001 RB II or the Mesa 400+ it was hard to NOT get a usable tone out of that bass.

    We will see how this goes as the days progress. So far with my active 5'er MarkBass sounds like studio recorded bass, tight, punchy, and very clear.

    Gimme a few days. :)
  15. I am curious to see how this would pair up with a 2x12 and a 15.
  16. Here is another honest question. Without a carpeted cab, how do users of this head keep it from walking off the amp?

    Also where can you get rack ears for it.
  17. I've owned my LM II almost two weeks now and played one gig through my Goliath III. I was very impressed.

    BTW, when I stopped in at GC in Mobile AL. (closest to me), I had only read the numerous posts but never tried one.
    This one was hooked to a MB 6x10 or 8x10 ( i really didn't pay attention) but sounded pretty damned good IMO. I put it through about four minutes worth of EQ-ing and playing with the filters and determined that it should work for me.

    I liked what I heard and how the filters acted, it seemed like it would be loud enough so I bought it. I have a GK 700RB II and an old 800RB, so I wasn't gaining anything in power but the weight, size and tone sold me. I just wish I knew which speaker cab I demoed it with for future reference. Not that I'll be buying a 6 or 8 ten cab. I'm still waiting for my Dr Bass cabs to appear!
  18. phat daddy

    phat daddy

    Jun 16, 2006
    Tampa Bay, FL
    I am the proud owner of a CMD 102P (2x10 combo) and a STD 104HF cab (4x10). I find the cabinetry to compliment the LMII head extremely well. I've also tried the 104HF with a very good-sounding pre-Gibson Trace Elliot head that I know very well and the cab handled what that put out wonderfully-- better than my tried and true Trace Elliot 4x10. It was deeper, highsier, and had more midrange punch-- I really love the B&C speakers in the Markbass and find the cabinet to be a state-of-the-art design. And for the record, my Markbass head offers a lot more sonic landscapage than the old Trace head for sure. The markbass sound is a very large new part of my sound. The only thing I added to the LMII to get the optimum response was a Trace Elliot SMX dual band compressor pedal, but that's because I've been playing with Trace Elliot compression for upwards of 15 years. With that added I have the best (by far) and most responsive, dynamic bass sound I've ever had. I also use a lot of effects and this rig can handle anything I throw at it at any volume I try-- and some of my envelope filters are absolutely torcherous to speaker cabs at high volumes. In short, my GASing for a top of the line state of the art amp is over.
  20. I'm finally about to take the plunge and pick up a 151HF cabinet... Money will be a little tight for a couple weeks but it will be worth it (there's a sale going on at GC plus I got an additional 10% discount postcard in the mail)... One things for certain, it'll take up less space in my apartment and be easier to lug around than the ancient Traynor 1x18 I have now... Plus the horn will allow me to use it as a standalone for practices and smaller gigs...

    Well, off to GC I go....