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FOR SALE: Accugroove El Whappo with cover.

Discussion in 'For Sale: Amps, Preamps, and Cabinets' started by BassIan, Nov 26, 2005.


  1. BassIan

    BassIan Supporting Member

    Apr 27, 2003
    Cupertino, California
    Alright, here's the story.

    I purchased the El Whappo from GH Services (their Canadian distributor/importer) in March of this year. I got it with the Accugroove cover. I've been happy with the cabinet, very happy. The sound is excellent, and it's not too big to lug to and from band practices. We here already know all the good things about Accugroove and the El Whappo.

    This particular one was one of the last with the tweeter and midrange attenuators. I have babied it as I do all my gear. There are no scratches or dents in the grill, no tears in the carpet, no broken corners. The corners have no wear on the bottom, since the cabinet has remained on its castors always. All screws have been kept at the correct torque to avoid any holes stripping.

    The reason I am selling is that the cabinet is not working out for ME. My band practices very loudly, and though I'm powering the cabinet with 1200 watts RMS, it's just not cutting through. I've played gigs that were still loud but not SO loud and gotten comments on my tone, not from drunk audience members, but from studio producers, soundmen, and other musicians; people who really know what they're hearing. I just can't get enough volume going at practices with my current main gig no matter what I do. I'll be sacrificing the even response and relatively compact size for something likely much larger to replace this.

    This is a great opportunity for anybody looking to try out an Accugroove cabinet that's in like-new condition but not at the new price. I want to get $1750 CDN for this cabinet. I need to afford gear to take its place, and can justify the price having taken care of this cabinet so well. Shipping/pickup arrangements will have to be discussed on a case-by-case basis, but as always, the closer to Victoria, BC, the better.

    Email me at ifl (at) uvic (dot) ca for higher quality pictures if you are interested.
     

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  2. MODNY

    MODNY Guest

    Nov 9, 2004
    i e mailed you
     
  3. Not to distract from a sale, but I'd try a different amp before I gave up on that cab. That is a great cab.
     
  4. Dr. PhunkyPants

    Dr. PhunkyPants Guest

    Aug 11, 2002
    USA
    IMO, the problem you are having is 110% the fault of the Ampeg head and not/not the cab. It's the classic complaint about that head.

    If 30 people have that complaint using that head with every cab on the market, and no one has ever had that problem using that cab with any other head, it kind of sends a message, no?

    Sell the head for $900, get a Crest CA-6 power amp and the preamp of your choice and you'll be all set to go to the extremes of human hearing.
     
  5. BassIan

    BassIan Supporting Member

    Apr 27, 2003
    Cupertino, California
    I plan on trying out a few different heads with this as I go through this process. I will be trying an SVT-2 Pro within a few days and perhaps that will work out better. I may also consider larger solid state power amps with a good pre - again I'd have to try it for myself and see if that would improve the results with this cab.

    It's true that I have had 1200 watts into this cabinet and it's never bottomed out...
     
  6. Dr. PhunkyPants

    Dr. PhunkyPants Guest

    Aug 11, 2002
    USA
    The El Whappo really IS the pinnacle of bass cabinet engineering and I would ALWAYS suggest a power amp and preamp to properly complement it. I'm not sure an SVT-II will full address the issue.

    The issue is not too many watts--you could easily run a 2400w power amp into this cab--it's the relative shyness of Ampeg wattage. (Watch as I stomp on this landmine). Ampeg wattage ratings are notorious for 'appearing' exaggerated. The issue may be the copious low freqencies that gobble up watts. Or maybe it's the rating scheme they use. Whatever the case, Ampeg is a decidedly ordinary choice of head to run through what is arguably the world's best bass cabinet.

    My suggestion is you either give up the Whappo and go with a more ordinary cab to match the Ampeg head. OR, get a power amp that can push the cab like it wants to be and a preamp that will do it all justice.

    Just my unsolicited $0.02
     
  7. i agree with the funky little rodent ;) . Put a Crest CA6 or 9 with any preamp, even the SVT4s pre and you'll be shocked at how that cab will come to life
     
  8. azflyman

    azflyman

    Apr 24, 2004
    Astoria, OR
    The Ampeg ratings are very nebulous. Since St. Louis Music has had the company the ratings seem to be about twice what the amp really puts out with the exception of the all tube 300 watt SVT. 600 watts of Crown power will smoke 1200 watts of Ampeg "rated" power. It is that fuzzy math thing in high gear. I have nothing against Ampeg products having owned several in the past but they do not put out the power when compared to Crown, Crest, Stewart, Yamaha, et al.

    az
     
  9. BassIan

    BassIan Supporting Member

    Apr 27, 2003
    Cupertino, California
    I'm still exploring options with amplification for this cabinet, as I really do love the sound. I am fully aware of Ampeg's power rating reputation. However, I still would like it to sell unless I have some serious revelation with it. I actually do feel like I am seeking a more "ordinary" cabinet in many ways.

    A Canadian El Whappo! I'm sure there's someone out there who wants one of these!
     
  10. MODNY

    MODNY Guest

    Nov 9, 2004
    i want it, but alas i need to sell other stuff!
     
  11. BassIan

    BassIan Supporting Member

    Apr 27, 2003
    Cupertino, California
    This is back up for sale. It's sitting here waiting for an owner.

    Give this bass pushing beast a good home.
     
  12. BassIan

    BassIan Supporting Member

    Apr 27, 2003
    Cupertino, California
    Reduced to $1500 CDN because of the repost!
     
  13. BassIan

    BassIan Supporting Member

    Apr 27, 2003
    Cupertino, California
    No takers? I'm open to offers! I'm just not using it anymore and it takes up a considerable percentage of space in my bachelor apartment here.
     
  14. J.Wolf

    J.Wolf Supporting Member

    Apr 29, 2003
    Asheville, NC
    Let me say..... BIG +1 on the amp issue here. I

    f you can't hear yourself with an El Whappo, I think there is about a 95% chance its amp related. I use a CA9 with a demeter pre with mine, and I have nooooo problems with volume.

    That cab kicks out unbelievable amounts of punch, bottom, and overall volume for a single cab. If you like the sound of the whappo, but just aren't getting the volume you need, definitely try another amp before you throw in the towel. You'll be a happy man!!
     
  15. BassIan

    BassIan Supporting Member

    Apr 27, 2003
    Cupertino, California
    I've since found something that makes me happier. I wasn't looking for the clean, flat sound after all. :D It appears I like it dirty and growly.
     
  16. J.Wolf

    J.Wolf Supporting Member

    Apr 29, 2003
    Asheville, NC
    Thats great, glad you found what you were looking for!

    So what did you get?
     
  17. BassIan

    BassIan Supporting Member

    Apr 27, 2003
    Cupertino, California
    The Schroeder 310212. Combined with my SVT-2 Pro, it destroys everything I've ever wanted to destroy. :bassist:
     
  18. I had the luxury of doing an A/B comp of an El Whappo and a Schroeder 410 with my Crest CA-6 (and Demeter pre). I ran the CA-6 bridged, 1200W at 4 ohm.

    Overall, the El Whappo was just as loud as the Schroeder. It was smooth across the spectrum, while the Schroeder has a bump at the low-mids that makes it a little more punchier.

    Anyway, your problem CANNOT be the EW, unless it's broken.
     
  19. King V

    King V

    Dec 13, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    Free bump for an amazing cab. The ElWhappo I bought from BigString showed up today and I am completely blown away!! It's hard to resist picking this one up to! :bassist:
     
  20. Glad you dig it Mike! You deserve some 'good luck' after all those storms :bassist: