I'm starting to lust after having a fretless 5 string. After reading so many good things about the BTB series basses from Ibanez, I thought that one of those would be nice to have; but I've searched here and looked around on the net, and I can't really find any concrete information as to whether they can be had fretless from the factory or not. Can one get a fretless Ibanez BTB405 from the factory, or is it something that you'd have to do yourself (I'd really rather not, as I'd rather have an unlined fretless and don't want to screw up the fingerboard in any case)? As an alternative, if I can't find one (and from what I've read and been told thus far it ain't happening), what do you guys think about the Tobias Toby Pro 5 fretless from musicyo.com? I've read in searches here that the electronics are weak as far as output volume, and that doesn't really bother me overmuch because that can always be upgraded. I'm more concerned about quality of construction and playability. I've read a few old threads here that indicate that, for the most part, they're good lower-price-range instruments and the electronics aren't bad, they're just not loud. I'm posting this in the hopes that someone might have tried one recently and wants to post their impressions of it. Thanks guys.