Somewhere in between? You might get a response from people who've tried them if you make the title a bit more descriptive - I've posted threads in the past that have gone nowhere until I've thought of a better title. Key words like 'high beams' and 'how bright?' might give enough clues to divert those in the know to take a look. Of course, if you're not willing to even bother doing a search, they may not bother to take the time to answer Wulf
--When first installed: 8 (too bright IMO) --After an hour of playing: 7 (perfect) --After a Fri/Sat night gig, playing under a rather warm light show with sweaty hands: 4 --After one more weekend like that: 2 (thud thud.... ugh)