interesting question posed on CL in a city/State that I don't live in (someone posted it on FB so I went and read it). Why don't you bassists out there want to join start-ups? His position? That we were all just greedy and we only wanted money. I'm formulating a response. I know there are people here that will say they do join start-ups and that's fine, and I know I'll get stories about a start-up that ended up on MTV and touring Japan, but that's not typical. And when I was younger, I did too. I just won't now. burned too many times I'm in the camp that generally won't unless I really knew the musicians starting it up and they had their poopie together, contacts, great PA, etc. my reason? Most start-ups never get off the ground and I no longer have 6 months, or 12, to waste on hopes and dreams. I want to get out there and play. Not just jam in an endless round of rehearsals. For me, it's a risky investment of time. I'm in it to play out. Steadily. Good gigs. not just jam. So for those of you that avoid the start-ups, say why?