I have french bow that i bought years ago from Ken Smith. http://www.kensmithbasses.com/doublebasses/bows/KSB/KSB_bows.html It's Loveri model, and Ken Smith sold out on these bows. Bow needs re-hair, but other than that it's good working condition. Used it when i was in school orchestra, my teacher was very surprise of its quality, compared to its price. I like to trade for equal valued German bow. Thanks!!