Yeah, its another Metal thread, deal with it. But I was just talking to a buddy of mine about the legacy and future of Metal, and come to a point where we both had found Metal has hit a bit of a dead end. To clarify, Metal is a genre that has always strived on revolution and change and the mainstreams effect on that flow. I.E. First there was Black Sabbath. When they started to get a little recognition by the mainstream, newer, more aggressive bands took their role as Kings of the Hill, aka, the NWOBHM. Then, when bands like Maiden and Priest started getting some recognition, a surge of newer, more aggressive bands replaced them as the new cutting edge, i.e., thrash. When Metallica started becoming a big, up and coming stadium band, they were replaced by again, newer, more aggressive bands, i.e., Death and Black Metal, which took it well beyond extreme. But now, 20+ years later (which is the equivalent to 90 in metal years), we're still on DM and BM, both of which have been pushed to their absolute limits, both in sheer brutality, virtuosity, and really every other facet. But it now seems like we're stuck, and though I still love many, many modern bands, I can't help but feel that things are growing a bit stale. With bands with entire songs comprised of technically masterful sweeps and taps, to ultra brutal bands with toilet being flushed guttural vocals with guitars playing in tuning ranges typically reserved for bassists, both extremes have been pushed to the limit to ridiculous levels. And to further add insult to injury, with all these -core bands exploiting and "pop-ifying" the "unpop-ifiable," aka, Death Metal, the culmination of almost 50 years of aggressive evolution in our genre, and getting major mainstream recognition for doing it, where has Metal left to go? The previous formula is pretty much obsolete, with no room for the "newer, more aggressive bands" to come in and spark another desperately needed revolution in the genre as a whole. So what do you think? I'm sure some will just say the usual "this is the same thing that been being said since Sabbath" but I really think the situation is getting desperate at this point, because even though there are still good bands coming out, nothing really truly "new" is coming out, imo, and things are getting a bit stagnant. There are bands that attempt to take a "proggier" kind of direction, but I don't see that as an evolution, just an off shoot. I do like listening to some of the more contemplative aspects of it, but I'm more of a fan of pure @$$-kicking, boot in your face, horns up banging your head til your brain oozes out your ears kinda metalhead myself, be it Sabbath, Maiden, Slayer, or Cannibal Corpse, something that I don't get from bands like Animals as Leaders or the like. tl;dr, Wheres Metal as a whole headed? Has the evolution reached the end of the line? I hope not, but from what I've been seeing, it just sorta looks that way.