G&L 2000 or Stingray?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by bassman5, Jan 15, 2001.

  1. I have been looking at the stringrays for a while now, but two days ago i was at mannys in new york and i played the stingray and the G&L 2000. I was wondering which is the better bang for the buck?
  2. rooster


    Jun 10, 2000
    upstate new york
    first of all what type of music do you play ? rock ,pop,country,punk,etc. etc.i own both a stingray and an asat by G&L different body same electronics. :D IMHO for most types of music considering most of us play cover music so you will be playing many different types at one time or another.the L2000 is hard to beat.i know once i started playing my asat bass the stingray stayed in the stand most of the time.and i love the look of my stingray its an anniversary model with the quilted maple top.the L2000 will give you many more tones unless you are a stingray sound die hard and want all your songs to sound the same.just my 0.02 cents worth.

  3. Well apart from the obvious similarity in look of the pickup, I'm not sure why people are always trying to compare the two as if they are almost interchangable. The G&L is a completely different bass. It wasn't designed to sound like a Stingray (or Sabre) so if that's what you are trying to make it do, it's not quite going to happen.

    I certainly agree that the L-2000 is a much more versatile instrument, and if I could only have one bass, that would be it.

    If you're truly set on having the Stingray sound, you may have to get one - but that's just about the only sound you'll get from it.

  4. Domino


    Dec 5, 2000
    Personal preference here, but from all bases I have tried I really have never liked any of them with only one pickup. I'm trying to decide between a Carvin LB-70, a Warwick Corvette Proline, and a G&L 2000. It's a VERY hard decision, but I personally would take any one of these over a stingray (personal preference).
  5. winston

    winston Supporting Member

    May 2, 2000
    Berkeley, CA
    I think people compare Music Mans and G&L's because they were designed by the grandaddy of the electric bass, Mr. Leo Fender. My StingRay is definitely the best-built, most solid factory-made bass I've ever owned, and it sure is pretty, but I'd be tempted to get an L-2000 just for the greater versatility. If you want to hear classic L-2000 tone's, check out "Junta" or "Lawn Boy" by Phish; Mike Gordon gets a meaty, snarky, bright and full tone from the instrument. On the other hand, with a StingRay, you'll never have a problem cutting through, which makes them work really well in heavier music, although it can be difficult to get them to sound warm and fat in the studio.
  6. camerondye


    Nov 7, 2000
    I own a musicman and am buying another one right now in a 5 string fretless because that is the sound in my head. When I play the G&L it sounds kinda flat, but I am also a one tone pony. I set the sound and ride it.

  7. I don't think there is a comparison...the Stingray by a long shot. I don't think that you can go wrong with it. The sound just rocks man no question.
  8. RAM


    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I think you should consider, among other things, the feel of them both. The Stingray has a huge, really fat neck, which I personally don't like. The G&L 2000 does, too, but a store that carries them here in the Chicago area told me recently that you can order a "J-bass" neck for the G&L at no extra charge. So, if you don't mind fatter necks, it's a total toss-up, in terms of feel. If you like the Jazz bass neck, I'd opt for a G&L 2000, but order the thinner neck.

    The sound is another story...this same store, which doesn't carry the MM told me that they don't feel the G&L is particularly good in recording situations, but is excellent in live situations. That may also be a determining factor.

    Personally, I couldn't get my sound out of the G&L. Maybe I didn't play with it long enough, but I'm not sure it'd be the bass for me. Others swear by them, however.
  9. I have to say that my G&L's excel in the recording studio. The L-2000 and L-2500 are very warm and punchy. The SB-2 sounds like any great vintage Fender - to me, it sounds better than any bass I've owned - both live and on tape.

    Opinions will vary though. :)
  10. RAM


    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    True, opinions will definitely vary:) But, I just want to clarify that this was the opinion of a retailer. I have no experience with G&L's in the recording studio. Therefore, you're better off trying it out yourself to determine if you like the outcome.
  11. craigb

    craigb Supporting Member

    I've owned both (not at the same time) and still have the L-2000. It's my main instrument and I personally love the feel and sound. The Stingray was great also but I couldn't get a P-bass like tone out of it (It never felt "right" to play Motown-like tunes with it - might be a personal problem). Now with the L-2000 I can get P-bass like and a ton of others (but not quite exactly a Stingray, or at least my memory of a Stingray).

    I think they are both great. The L-2000 has great diversity in that it can produce a lot of different tones. I can always find one that sounds good to me no matter what my ears are doing on a given day. The Stingray has one great tone that can be used in diverse situations. Go with whichever one floats your boat the best.

    I don't think you can go wrong either way. You can get a new L-2000 for under $800 so it's a bit cheaper than a 'Ray (less popular, not lower quality from my point of view). Leo designed some awesome instruments.
  12. Suburban


    Jan 15, 2001
    lower mid Sweden
    Ehm, hi guys.
    I see this name G&L in just about every thread here. And I don't know first thing about them - I don't like that. Around my home, it's just about impossible to find anything but Fender and Ibanez in the shops.
    Does G&L have a website (I've searched without success!).
  13. I've got exactly the same problem here in stockholm. The only thing they sell here are Fenders, Ibanezes and Warwicks (the "cheap" ones). Of course there are also tons of Squiers and other low-end brands. I've occasionally seen a Musicman or a Spector.
    This makes it quite difficult to compare basses 'cos the only thing I can compare them to are my Fretless Thumb BO and my Spector NS2000.

    Sorry if I diverged from the topic...
  14. red-hot-bassist


    Sep 18, 2001
    did anyone else notice that was a ryhme thing?
  15. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    There are distinct differences between the G&L and StingRay which are worth thinking about:

    1. G&L has full passive bypass, giving you extra tonal options plus you can keep playing if your battery or preamp dies.

    2. G&L has a lot more tonal options with two pickups and choice of series and parallel modes. You can get CLOSE to a P bass, J bass or StingRay sound. Exact? Of course not, but it covers a lot more ground than the one pickup of the StingRay can.

    3. G&L pickups have polepiece adjustments allowing you to fine tune the string balance.

    4. G&L has a very different bridge design which you may or may not prefer.

    5. G&L offers more custom options (custom neck dimensions, ebony fingerboards, etc.). On the other hand, the StingRay now can be had with an optional piezo bridge pickup system.

    6. The EQ systems are real different; StingRay has active 2-band boost only or 3-band boost/cut while G&L is passive EQ even with the preamp engaged but offers a switchable treble boost (no bass boost, but I don't think it needs one!).

    Build quality of both brands is similar (high!!!). It's all down to personal preference. I have owned two G&Ls (L-1000, L-2500) but never warmed up to a StingRay. You may be just the opposite, so you really need to try both.
  16. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    Why? I feel there is a comparison. They're both excellent basses. They're both designed by Leo Fender. They're both basses. If you're looking for a Ray sound, go for the Ray BUT if you want a bass that's a little versatile, GET THE L-2000!!!! From the L-2000 you can get a very good P soung, a J sound, a very mice Ray sound & of course the GREAT L-2000 sound. Granted, the sounds from the P, J & Ray aren't exact, but they're DAMN CLOSE!!!!!

    I own a G&L-2000 & I would never sell it. For those of you that know my nutty compulsive nature, you know I mean business if I won't sell a bass. I've had the bass for 8 years & it KILLS!!!! IMO, G&L's are the BEST non-custon made bass on the market. During the time I owned the G&L, I've owned a few Rays & Sterlings. Great basses but they didn't sound as good (to me) as the L-2000.

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  17. ZuluFunk

    ZuluFunk Supporting Member

    Apr 14, 2001
    I'd say they are too different to choose between. I mean, like Nino said, if you want the Stingray sound, get that. If you want to be able to get more variety in your tone, get teh G&L.
  18. ldiezman


    Jul 11, 2001
    I have played some G&L L2000 and 2500.. They really aren't at all like a Stingray. I liked the G&L but I couldn't get The sound I was looking for. The sounds I got were great. but not my sound. Now I really Like The G&L jazz basses. the Jb-2 i think it is. these basses are pretty durn nice. but in the end I will take my ray 5 because right now at this point, it is the best bass for me. I play rock, jazz, funk, and some fusion. it covers it all for me, and I love the tone.. but its all about what you like you know. The G&L has a much slimmer neck, which I like, but I also like that Nice thick neck of the Stingray. Of course I have huge hands so getting around the neck is no problem for me. again its really all about you. either way you'll be happy