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G&L querries

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Brendan, Jan 12, 2003.


  1. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    I've been lookin around, researching a burning case of GAS that threatens to tear apart my sense of time and space.

    Well, not really, but, close. Anyway, I'm seeing a whole crop of G&L basses, and being a good rememberer, I recall that a lot of people dig these things for being built like tanks, having great finishes, and versatility out the wazoo.

    So, my question, being a P freak is can these suckers hit the P tone? If they can, I'm all over one. I'v been looking at L2000s primarily, with an SB-2 and L1000 in the running. What can you tell me about these puppies?
    SB-2 and the L1000 I'm looking at a couple L2000s more though, and it's those I have a real interest in.

    Need bass.....
     
  2. KB

    KB

    Jan 13, 2000
    Chapel Hill, NC
    from my experience the L2000 can sort of nail the P-tone. It is a deeper P-tone, kind of the P on steroids as the pickup has a different design and is very very hot due to being MFD. The L2000's biggest appeal is the L2000 sound (both pickups on). The L2000 with the MFD pickups in a tone monster. It is a very aggressive sounding bass. I use mine (neck pickup only) to fill in for that P-tone.

    The L2000 is a great bass that is very reasonably priced in the used market (can be had for $500-$650 for a good quality one with a hardcase).

    My '82 L2000 is my primary bass, even though it weighs a ton due to being mahogany (which is no longer made as G&L bodies).

    -KB
     
  3. xush

    xush

    Jul 4, 2001
    mobile AL
    I've got an ASAT that I feel approximates the P tone pretty well. Also does impressions of quite a few other celebrities...

    Very happy with it, makes me want to play.
    I think it's more of a "P on Viagra w/ a Whiskey chaser" kind of tone.
     
  4. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Cooool. I think an L2000 is in my future somewhere...btw, how is the balance on the ASAT?
     
  5. KB

    KB

    Jan 13, 2000
    Chapel Hill, NC
    I have heard the ASAT has a little neck dive due to the lack of upper horn, but I have never played one. The L2000 balances perfectly. It kind of has a reduced P-style body. It does come in 2 neck widths a jazz size and a large P size.

    -KB
     
  6. xush

    xush

    Jul 4, 2001
    mobile AL
    The balance is fine, but with no upper strap horn to speak of, first position is more of a stretch than usual.

    But then you ain't exactly a ballerina, is ya now?
    I'm sure you could handle it...

    I strap mine a little lower than usual, and tilt the neck up a bit.
     
  7. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Huh. Well, tommorrow I'll look up some G&Ls...This could be beefy! :D
     
  8. xush

    xush

    Jul 4, 2001
    mobile AL
    I think you'll get a kick out of them. They are rude in the best sense of the word. A real workhorse, very versatile, everything you could want a Fender to be. I'd like to try a semi-hollow ASAT to see how they stack up.

    I think you usually have to run them a little differently than most setups though. The signal is super-hot, in my experience. You have to back down on the volume a bit. That's the one thing I can think of that might make a difference on a test-drive. Might have to back off on the bass control too. They are mighty strong.

    You gonna likey!
     
  9. Jeff Moote

    Jeff Moote Supporting Member

    Oct 11, 2001
    Beamsville, ON, Canada
    I share the others' sentiments. L2k comes really close to the P tone (but is beefiera) but does it's own thing best

    The G&L forum at the dudepit probably has a lot of info you'd like...
     
  10. Nick man

    Nick man

    Apr 7, 2002
    Tampa Bay
    There are 3 things that G&L basses are really known for.

    1. Great quality.

    2. An incredible arsenal of tones, including P, Jazz, Ray and several G&L elclusives which are all very useable though not exact.

    3. Agressive sound.


    As far as #1 goes, they are handmade in the US for a killer price. Thats gotta say something. Its hard to find a lemmon as far as Im concerned.

    With #2, you can get really killer P and Jazz tones, but they arent exact. The Ray tone isnt really that close, but I think its really better at doing the Rays job and filling its place better than immitating it.

    With #3, you will find that you can really get some insanely overly agressive toes out of those basses if you try. Hell, I do it every time I pick up my L-2500! Its the most agressive sounding bass Ive ever played.

    Oh and if you want to try the different sounds out, try my favorites(these work with L-2000, ASAT, and L-2500):

    G&L tone, which I use with my band.
    All knobs maxed out, top switch in the middle (both PUs), middle switch pointed up (series), bottom switch all the way up (active with trebble boost).

    Jazz tone, cool for covers.
    Volume and bass maxed, trebble full or slightly rolled off, top switch in the middle, middle switch down, bottom switch down. This works best going dirrect with me, but thats probably because of my EQing.

    P tone, mostly for covers.
    Volume full, trebble and bass full or slightly rolled off, top switch in top position, middle switch in top position, and bottom switch in middle or bottom position depending on whether I want a bright P tone, or a thuddy P sound, and my EQ.

    The most important thing IMO with getting the different sounds are the top two switches. PU selector and series/parallel selector.

    Peace
    Nick
     
  11. Nick man

    Nick man

    Apr 7, 2002
    Tampa Bay
    Yeah, I forgot to mention the high output.

    I always like to test out anything that goes between my bass and speakers to see how it handles the hot signal.

    On my Navigator pre-amp, I have the gain knob set to just past 9:00 with it overdriving the preamp into some pretty heavy, sweet distorion.

    Make sure you compensate for that when you try it out.

    Peace
    Nick
     
  12. L2Ks are the only basses I'll use from now on.
     
  13. barroso

    barroso

    Aug 16, 2000
    Italia
    i have to say that i LOVE my L2000. killer tone.
     
  14. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    How big of a string can the L2000 bridge accept? I almost fully intend to re-string it BEAD, and the SB-1 I played awile looked like it barely fit an E. Can anyone verify the size of the string channel? I usually use a non tapered .130.
     
  15. gbenner

    gbenner

    May 20, 2001
    ocean, new jersey
    The L-2000 is a great bass, but so is the SB-2. I started playing bass about two years ago after a 28 year break. I sold and gave away some great equipment. Including a nice 64 P and a 69 J. I've wanted to replace my P but the prices are to high for me. I bought an G&L SB-2, it out P's a P IMHO. Deeper low's and more highs with out being harsh. Its still very warm, and more P thump. I still want to get a Fender P, (sunburst), but you cant beat a G&L at any price. The SB-2 also nails a nice J tone also. Try to play an SB-2 and the L-2000 before you buy, then make up your mind. A Fender P is a Fender P, and can't be beat, but the SB-2 adds a little more the the P tone, it may not be for all but I love it.

    George
     
  16. xush

    xush

    Jul 4, 2001
    mobile AL
    I put on the low strings from a 6-string set of regular Zons.
    BEAD sounds purty good to me. The non-tapered .130 fits fine, and the nut is pretty close already. No untoward buzzes or rattles.

    I tweaked the truss rod a wee bit, and lowered the B String saddle; it was strung with tapered strings before, so the non-tapered B actually sat a little too high. I had to raise the p'ups on the bass side a bit, now everything seems pretty good. Not a bad B considering all the specs.

    Now that is one rectum-rumbler of a rig. I see why it intrigues you Brendan. I don't know if I'll keep it this way, but I may as well for a while. At least long enough for somebody to come in the studio and get really confused...
     
  17. SoComSurfing

    SoComSurfing Mercedes Benz Superdome. S 127. R 22. S 12-13.

    Feb 15, 2002
    Mobile, Al
    Just what are you implying here?!
     
  18. funkasaurus

    funkasaurus

    Apr 23, 2001
    Los Angeles
    I've been playing bass for almost two years (still a newb, especially around here!) and I know it's something I love and will continue, so I've decided to upgrade from my MIM Jazz. Recently I've been playing every bass I can get my hands on and my favorite so far is the G&L L-2000. I've spent a few hours over the past few months at Buffalo Bros playing L-2000's and ASATs. They are built like tanks and I love all the different tones you can get. I also like the simple, elegant lines of the body shapes and the finishes I've seen are gorgeous. Plus they are handmade right here in the US (nothing against imports, hell I'm Korean).

    I've also tried out Warwicks, Stingrays, Fenders, and Carvins and so far my first choice for my next bass is definitely a L-2000, although there are still a few basses out there I want to try out before I make a final decision, like the MTD Kingston and Heir and the Lakland Skyline series. Haven't seen those in my local shops though. I also really liked the Fender Geddy Lee Jazz I tried, but I want to get something other than a Jazz at this point since I already have one of those.

    Haven't played a Precision beyond trying them out in stores, so I can't help you there, but you can add me to the list of G&L fans.
     
  19. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Yep. :D I fully support BEAD, and have for two years now. It's a really neat way to string a 4 banger. My Ibanez handles the B string really well, and hopefully, so will the L2000 I'll wrangle from someone.
     
  20. Nick man

    Nick man

    Apr 7, 2002
    Tampa Bay
    Well it fits fine on my L-2500 but thats a five string so I cant say how it will woprk on yours for sure, but I imagine that asside from some nut work you should be fine.

    Peace
    Nick