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GAS? Or maybe something I ate?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Chasarms, Oct 17, 2001.


  1. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Bettendorf, IA USA
    We often suggest at this forum that GAS is contracted, like a cold, and we either give in or we ride it out.

    After many years of combating GAS, I want to offer this hypothesis:

    I have come to believe that GAS is more like Herpes. Once you have it, you always have it. It is just that it lies dormant for long periods of time and rises up when you are particularly vulnerable.

    Anyway, I ran accross a very fair deal on a nice bass and GAS struck. I have been feeling it come on for a while, so when I saw this deal, I knew I was a goner.

    In the eighties, I had a first generation Yamaha BB300 bass. Alder body, maple neck, Rose board. It had a P bass pickup and very much a P bass vibe. I always thought of the bass as a sleeper and if not for a break-in at my home, I'd still be sporting it.

    So I just ran accross an oldie but goodie BB350. This bass is also alder, maple neck and rose FRETLESS board. Only difference is that it has a J bass config.

    I bought it off the web without playing it, but for what I paid, I can always make a clock out of it.

    My hope is this: My old bass was very P bass like. I am hoping the alder body and rose board with the J bass configuraltion gives this one a fretless jazz flavor. It will make for a nice fourth bass. If not, ebay is a wonderful thing.

    Those old BB basses really are sleepers and a great value for someone out there looking for decent guitar for not a lot of money. I have played a bunch of them and found them comparable to same vintage Fenders. I have heard that the newer, smaller bodied BBN are not as sweet nor as well made as the older ones. I think they moved production from Japan to somewhere else.

    Anyway, I'll keep you posted.

    Chas
     
  2. Chas, you're takin' me back, man. Ever since they first appeared (I think in the late 70s) I have always loved Yamaha's BB series. In fact their BB1200 (not sure if that's the exact model #) sounded about as close to a good Pre-CBS P-bass as one could get without actually buying an old Fender. I only played one BB300 a long time ago, but I remember how good it sounded, and how little it cost. This was another sleeper bass that never really caught on. I never played a BB350, but, I believe that they were the predecessor of the current BB4N series, of which I am a very satisfied owner. (BB5NII same bass, only 5 strings) As I've been saying since I got my BB back in June, These basses sound very close to standard Fenders, only noticeably more growly. I would agree with you that the older BBs did sound sweeter than the current BBs, in that they had a more traditional Motown like tone. I'd say you got yourself a real winner. It'll probably sound like a good 70s fretless Jazz. Enjoy it.

    Mike J.
    Everybody: Watch out for those Yamahas, they'll sneak up on you!
     
  3. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    FWIW - the latest Bass Player reviews the Yammer BB1500A (Taiwanese). Shiraki just loved it; called it "Tone Chameleon"....Cons: Only a few tweaks from perfection."

    It's not much to look at but what can you say? It received 5's for Value, Sound, and Playability and received a Top Tone Award.

    That may be my next release of GAS....first, I just have to get over the shock of considering a bass made in the Orient. :eek:
     
  4. Rickbass, I just got the latest issue of Bass Player yesterday and saw that beautiful Yamaha. As to what I've quoted by you above, don't let this stop you. I'd rather buy American too, but, ya gotta give credit where credit is due. And Yamahas for the most part are way underrated.

    Mike J.
     
  5. rickreyn

    rickreyn

    Jun 16, 2000
    Lutz, Florida
    I thought I was the only one with GAS! I think this is yet another derivation of terrorism! Just keep floating ideas about all those basses past, present and future, and they'll never do anything productive again. Hope you have fun with the new bass!
     
  6. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Bettendorf, IA USA
    I think it is certainly among the first conditions known to be digitally transmitted. I do fine as long as I stay off TB. The thing is even TB has a certain adictive quality about it.

    Anyway, I talked to the nice fellow who is selling this bass, and he is to ship it to me tomorrow morning. I'll try to get a photo out when it arrives. Maybe a group pose with the rest of the stringed clan.

    As far as buying an Asian built bass, that's is up to you. Some of the nicest Fenders I have ever played were made in Japan. Like everything else, you get what you pay for. Even Yamaha makes a few duds. But they also make some sweethearts.

    Chas
     
  7. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    I'd have to agree, the old Yamaha BB basses were really sweet.

    I had one for the longest time and I loved the way it felt and sounded. Thanks for the memories...now I miss it!!!
     
  8. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    I have a BB300, exactly like the one Chasarms describes. The thing is great, a seriously under-rated bass. Have fun with the 350!!!
     
  9. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    There's no doubt in my rational mind that Japan has put out some good sound, Michael.

    My reluctance to own one is emotional. My formative bass years were spent surrounded by guys with Lindells, Teisco del Reys, and all the other stuff when the saying was "MIJ means crap." Four friends' had US instruments that were clearly better sounding and louder to my unrefined, 12-year old, ears than all the Japanese stuff at the time -- (a National, a Danelectro, a Gibson, and a Dwight/Supro). Later on, I had a Japanese EB3 knockoff and it was almost the equal of a real EB3 except for the tuners and the rosewood.

    I'll get over it. It's just the same sort of thing as hotels that don't have a "13th Floor" button in their elevators.
     
  10. Hategear

    Hategear Workin' hard at hardly workin'.

    Apr 6, 2001
    Appleton, Swissconsin
    I always get GAS after I cycle off of my creatine. Also, herpes are not a bad thing, they're a good thing -- STDs build character! Woooooo! :D
     
  11. rickreyn

    rickreyn

    Jun 16, 2000
    Lutz, Florida
    ...Wind Controller and Sound Module. Talk about a change of pace for an ex-clarinetist. The Yamaha name is not shabby. Lots of high end musical instruments.
     
  12. I have 2 1200s and a 3000, all neckthroughs. Because of it's pj emg setup and jazz neck, the 3000 is my main working bass.

    My real sweetheart is my old 1200 cherry sunburst that I had coverted to fretless. Neck heavy, just plain heavy, I still pick it up whenever I want sing through my bass.

    BTW, there's a nice 1200 that looks a lot like that cherry sunburst on ebay. Looks like somebody added a finger rest. Some of the photos have the perspective a bit skewed, the headstocks not THAT big. If I didn't already have 2, well maybe if the price stays low,..... :D

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Bettendorf, IA USA
    I saw that bass on ebay. What a sweety. Funny, my exact thought was to convert it fretless.

    I hooked up to watch it. Two basses in the same month might freak out the wife. She's certainly cool, but not that cool.

    Although last week I actually had her talked into me buying a $2,500 Modulus Q5. So maybe $500-600 for two basses won't sound so bad.

    Chas
     
  14. rickreyn

    rickreyn

    Jun 16, 2000
    Lutz, Florida
    We may be dealing with the urge to buy a new bass now and then, but there are many other hobbies far more expensive. I saw a guy on the road the other day with his decked out flats fishing boat behind a beautiful black F150 XLT. The boat was reading to go with four poles stuck in the holders and a Saltwater Series Yamaha 250 ready to be ignited. I turned to my boys and said, you know how many basses it costs to buy that boat and the truck to pull it, much less fix it when it invaribly breaks down? Makes a $600 bass pale in comparison!
     
  15. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Bettendorf, IA USA
    Trouble is, I also have a boat!! :)