GC Today, Squier basses were all terrible

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Bob-I, Dec 22, 2014.

  1. Bob-I

    Bob-I

    Sep 12, 2014
    let me start be saying, I'm a big fan of low cost instruments. I have a Hamer 5 string, a Curbow, several
    Epi, Fender, and other inexpensive guitars and all are decent instruments. I've also played several Squier basses that are great, play well and sound good. My favorite is my friend's CV Jazz bass which I played for hours at a BBQ last summer. It played so well and sounded so good I had no idea it was a Squier until I saw the logo later.

    I went to GC nearby thinking I might pick out a bass to purchase after my year end bonus comes through. I played no fewer than 6 Squier basses, Classic Vibe, Vintage Modified, Jazz, Jaguar, 4 string, 5 string... Everyone of them was simply terrible. Unplayable action, terrible tone, buzzy electronics, just terrible QC.

    I also played Ibanez, Yamaha and SUB. One Ibanez was selling for $129, and it out played and sounded better than any of the Squiers. The SUB actually played very nice and had decent tone, I was kinda surprised based on reviews I've read here. However the single bridge hum PU just didn't do it for me.

    So what are the choices for low cost basses now?
     
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  2. Garret Graves

    Garret Graves Gold Supporting Member

    May 20, 2010
    Rosemead, Ca
    Unplayable action should not be on the list of objections, IMO. Action is easily adjustable, and in fact is expected to be adjusted by the end user anyway- so don't blame that on the manufacturers.
     
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  3. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    Why not just go for the Sterling SUB 4 and then get this for more tonal options?
    For $30 you can't go wrong.
    You might hear bad things about some Behringer products, but they got it right with this...just check out what people on Amazon have to say about it. Seldom do you ever see anything with so many positive reviews.
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  4. RedHotFuzz

    RedHotFuzz

    Mar 16, 2014
    I've never been impressed with any Squier I've put my hands on, despite the adulation for them you see on this forum.
     
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  5. RED J

    RED J Lol

    Jan 23, 2000
    Here's my .02 ever heard somebody talk about how all the good ones are taken ? Guess what just happened to you ? Think about where you were. Do not use this as a benchmark, trust me.
     
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  6. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    I bought one of these about a month ago and saw another for sale a few weeks later at the Guitar Center in Plymouth Meeting, Pa...still there according to their web page. New, they were $499, I think.
    Smooth satin finish neck, Jazz Hot pickups, and a slightly modern take on a traditional body shape.
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    Some people don't like Deans, but I liked this better than the Squiers I tried out the day I bought it.
    Of course, the following week I bought a Squier CV Jazz bass in Inca Silver that was better than a Fender MIM that I'd had my eye on.
     
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  7. Basshappi

    Basshappi

    Feb 12, 2007
    Tucson,AZ
    Never judge any product by the examples you find in GC.
     
  8. Runnerman

    Runnerman Registered Bass Player

    Mar 14, 2011
    I'll say this, GC's have techs which setup all basses (or are supposed to) before hanging them on the wall. Your GC may just have a poor tech or maybe they don't do the setup at all. My local Sam Ash is even worse. They have onsite guitar repair and they even have the initials of the tech on the basses/guitars hang tags. I picked up an unplayable Steve Harris P.....I mean literally unplayable. High action and fret buzz in the same bass. Indeed the hang tag was signed off by some totally incompetent tech. I'm disappointed every time I go in that place. Bottom line, don't base your evaluation of Squiers on a crappy dealer that doesn't know how to properly prep its products.
     
  9. RedHotFuzz

    RedHotFuzz

    Mar 16, 2014
    Because Squier saves all its premium-grade $300 basses for select, elite dealers? ;P
     
  10. Basshappi

    Basshappi

    Feb 12, 2007
    Tucson,AZ
    Yeah, that's it.
     
  11. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    The Guitar Center a few miles away from me must play by their own rules.
    Their tech is the consumate pro...which is nice to see in any shop.
    They tell you what's wrong with the merchandise...I was looking at a Fender Jazz bass a few weeks ago and was told it had a truss rod problem...that's why the price was so low.
    A few weeks ago an old man and his wife who had no idea what to buy their grandson for Christmas asked me about a Squier Jaguar bass. I told them a few things about it and when the salesman came over and they told him they wanted it, he told them it needed the fret ends filed and took it right to the tech who stopped what he was doing and did the job then and there.
     
  12. Bob-I

    Bob-I

    Sep 12, 2014
    I couldn't agree more, but in these cases it was way beyond adjusting action. It was twisted necks, improperly positioned bridges, wrong neck angle.
     
  13. Bob-I

    Bob-I

    Sep 12, 2014
    I actually have a zoom a2 which is really designed for acoustic guitar, but has bass models as well. I've found it extremely useful but not a replacement for a decent sounding bass.
     
  14. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    No, of course not...the thing with the V-tone is it makes some "cheap" basses sound better.
    It didn't sound that good with my friend's Rickenbacker but it sounded great with my $300 stuff. Big improvement with my old Dean acoustic bass, which had less than desirable electronics.
    I bought my niece a used Epiphone Thunderbird and it worked wonders with that.
     
  15. SanDiegoHarry

    SanDiegoHarry Inactive Supporting Member

    Aug 11, 2008
    San Diego, CA
    THANK YOU. Thank you for saying it before I did. Cheap is cheap. Period.
     
  16. bassbully

    bassbully Endorsed by The PHALEX CORN BASS..mmm...corn!

    Sep 7, 2006
    Blimp City USA
    Wow was it just the Squiers? Wonder what the big buck basses looked like?
     
  17. bassbully

    bassbully Endorsed by The PHALEX CORN BASS..mmm...corn!

    Sep 7, 2006
    Blimp City USA
    Ahhhh dang! There goes all my faith in my cheapie Squiers.
     
  18. scuzzy

    scuzzy

    Feb 15, 2006
    Troy, MO
    cheap is still cheap. however, at a couple of the GC's I've been too....EVERY bass played like total garbage. stingrays, SUB's, fender jazz, ibanez 4 and 6 string. absolutely terrible. several amps were crackling with issues, a few basses being sold as new didn't even have pickups WORKING in them.

    however, at the GC south of me the instruments were set up much better. the cheap ones played better and pickups appeared to be set-up with correct height greatly improving tone. all amps performed as they should.

    guitar center is a sketchy place. no telling what you'll find unless you know one well and know those that run it.
     
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  19. RedHotFuzz

    RedHotFuzz

    Mar 16, 2014
    Yeah, I get tired of the TalkBass crowd's constant "Squiers are equal to basses five times the price!"

    No they're not.
     
  20. The location I visit on occasion suffers the same ills, I'm afraid. Usually it's the Fender/Squier instruments, but being aware how easily a Fender-style instrument can be adjusted, I can't understand why they don't service them before they go on the wall. Not judging a bass by it's setup is one thing, but when a bass is so terribly setup as to be unplayable, how can I test it out to see if I like it? There's no chance I'll buy that bass, so it hangs on the wall. Meanwhile, the local shop I frequent has a VM Jazz that plays like silk, has proper bridge placement, no wiring noise and the frets are great. Can't say the same about the $1200 Stringray I grabbed off the wall at GC during my last visit. I could slip my middle finger under the strings at the 12th fret.
     
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