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Geek question! Five port routers?

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by Tom Crofts, Aug 25, 2005.


  1. Tom Crofts

    Tom Crofts

    Mar 15, 2001
    Hey guys, I'm not usually too bad with all this techno malarky but am having trouble with this one and would appreciate any help/suggestions.

    I've moved into a new student house and there's five PCs in there. We want to have all five connected to the internet but I've been looking at routers and it seems that they're all 4-port.

    Is it possible to connect four wirelessly and one physically plugged in? Are five port routers available? What would the best way of connecting them all be? Preferably wireless but if not then I'm sure we'd be able to work something out...

    If you need any more details then just ask, thanks for reading this far and I hope you guys can help me out with this.

    Cheers,

    Tom
     
  2. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    London, UK
    Get a 4 port router and 4 port hub... and you will be good...

    Dont buy any crap brands either... no dlink or crap like that...
     
  3. Tom Crofts

    Tom Crofts

    Mar 15, 2001
    And then have 2 connected to the hub and 3 wirelessly connected to the router?

    I've found D-link to be pretty good. The guy who designed my Belkin Wireless PCI card, however, deserves a slow, painful death.
     
  4. Trevorus

    Trevorus

    Oct 18, 2002
    Urbana, IL
    what kserg said would work. Wireless requires a lot of extra hardware, whereas the 5 computers probably have network adapters already. I personally use my desktop as a router (2 network adapters) and a hub, so when my friends come over, they can just plug into the hub and it's go time. The router/hub situation would cost less too. You might shop around for cat5 cable though. I know of a place that sells it massivley cheap (local telephone provider/supply place) and the commercially available packages ala Best buy, Circuit city, radioshack, cost unbelievable more.

    BTW, I personally like linksys.
     
  5. Tom Crofts

    Tom Crofts

    Mar 15, 2001
    Thanks, by the way. :)
     
  6. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    London, UK
    Or... setup wireless...

    Slightly more pricy (not by whole lot)... no wires to think about...
     
  7. LajoieT

    LajoieT I won't let your shadow be my shade...

    Oct 7, 2003
    Western Massachusetts
  8. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    London, UK
    Or... setup wireless...

    Slightly more pricey (not by whole lot)... no wires to think about...

    Then you have 4 ports for anyone who comes in with out wireless... and well... lots of wireless "ports"

    I enjoy having wireless myself... its abit more pricey but its not too bad... See what price will be to get router + hub + cables and this:


    This is what i have:
    LINKSYS WRT54GS IEEE 802.11b/g, 802.3 Wireless Broadband Router - Retail $79.99 - $10 mail in bait.

    LINKSYS WMP54GS IEEE 802.11b/g PCI Wireless Adapter up to 54Mbps Data Rates 64/128-Bit WEP, WPA - Retail $59 - $10 mail in bait. (X how many pcs you have)


    Cheaper way is to get one with out speed boost which is this:

    LINKSYS WRT54G IEEE 802.11b/g, 802.3 Wireless-G Broadband Router - Retail $59 - $10 mail in bait.

    LINKSYS WUSB54G USB 1.1/2.0 Wireless Adapter - Retai $49 - $10 mail in bait.

    Good luck..

    Cheers
     
  9. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    London, UK
  10. Ericman197

    Ericman197

    Feb 23, 2004
    Iowa
    I also have an 8 port model. Three computers are connected to it in one office and the rest of the wires were snaked into the bedrooms, basement and the other office for the other five computers. The laptops are all on a wireless network.
     
  11. Marley's Ghost

    Marley's Ghost Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    Go wireless. No worries about port limitations then. Or add a 4 port SWITCH. Don't get a hub, they suck :spit: Linksys is a good choice for what you are doing.

    If you buy wireless gear, make sure you TEST your connections before you throw away boxes. Always save receipts. :eyebrow:
     
  12. Tom Crofts

    Tom Crofts

    Mar 15, 2001
    Sorry, I forgot to mention in my original post that wireless would definitely be preferable, as four of us already have wireless cards in our PCs.

    If I go wireless just with a standard 4 port wireless router eg Linksys befw11s4, can i connect as many wireless PCs as i want to it?

    Thanks for all your suggestions so far guys :)
     
  13. Marley's Ghost

    Marley's Ghost Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    Within reason, but your performance will degrade as you add more PC's. Four should be fine, tho.

    If you go with 802.1G, you will get 54mb/s, which is plenty for most applications.
     
  14. Tom Crofts

    Tom Crofts

    Mar 15, 2001
    That's the thing, we want to be able to connect 5 Pcs at once. It's gonna be a 3mb line so hopefully won't be too bad.

    Can I wirelessly connect 5 PCs at once to the router I specified in my earlier post (or to any wireless 4-port switch router)? Or would it be possible to connect four wirelessly and one wired?
     
  15. LajoieT

    LajoieT I won't let your shadow be my shade...

    Oct 7, 2003
    Western Massachusetts
    You can connect as many wireless computers to a single wireless router as the router has capabilities to assign private IP addresses to (usually between 128 and 256 depending on model and firmware) but IIRC the wireless chanel has a fixed bandwith which is then shared by every computer conneced to it. E.G. if the Wireless adapter has a bandwidth of 54mb/s and you configure 5 wireless computers they will all get (theoreticlly if they're all trying to pull as fast as possible at the same time) a bit over 10mb/s ( in reality, the total amount of bandwidth of each computer will be somewhere between that and the 54mb/s max if nobody else is actively transfering ) If the wireless router also has wired ports, they typically will get the full ethernet speed (100mb/s) available to each plug in the case of the switches, but I think a strait hub (the cheaper of the router configs) would then share the 100mb/s wired channel between the # of ports that are active at the time. That's the way it was explained to me, but my understanding may be off some. If so I'm sure someone with more understanding will set the record strait.
     
  16. Marley's Ghost

    Marley's Ghost Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    You can use wired and wireless simultaneously. 5 pc's would be fine.
     
  17. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    London, UK

    Make sure that all your wireless cards are compatable with the wireless router you will get.

    Other then that you wont have any problems... It acctually will cost you less because you dont have to buy cables and such:)
     
  18. baba

    baba Supporting Member

    Jan 22, 2002
    3rd stone from the sun
    Go wireless. You just need an access point router at your broadband connection and a wireless nic for each of the PCs. Simple.

    Also, if you have a laptop you can pickup wireless when you travel. Very few people encrypt their wireless networks so you can "borrow" some bandwidth.....not that I condone this.;) That said, if you don't want to share your wireless network with those outside of your group, utilize the security function to prevent others from hopping on.
     
  19. Tom Crofts

    Tom Crofts

    Mar 15, 2001
    Thanks guys, I appreciate all your help! Think I know what I'm gonna do now, buy a 54g wireless router and I'll be sorted!

    Cheers everyone!

    Tom
     
  20. WillPlay4Food

    WillPlay4Food Now With More Metal! Staff Member Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Orbiting HQ
    Definitely do this if you have a wireless network. You wouldn't want to get screwed because your neighbor used your wireless network to upload some kiddie porn or something.