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Genius or Stupid

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Skarekrough, Dec 31, 2013.

  1. Skarekrough


    Aug 7, 2006
    I'm not a big "pedals on the floor" guy but in my setup I do use a few in my chain which get turned on and left on.

    In the past I've piled them on top of my amp but always had issues with them sliding off. Sometimes they got taped, sometimes, velcro, etc. Either way it was a pain, less than effective and typically left a sticky mess behind.

    I was thinking about using painters tape (no sticky mess!) to add magnets to the bottom of the pedals and the top of the rack-mounted head.

    Since were dealing with electronics and magnets I wanted to run this by the folks here to see if there is something that I might be overlooking that could cause damage or an issue.

    The magnets are small "rare earth" type. I've been using them to make stir plates (I homebrew beer).

    What do you folks think? There's enough holding power to keep the pedals and other items from sliding off. But I'm always concerned about causing damage.

  2. I'm not an electrical engineer but I think magnets would be a bad idea. I have my amp in a rack case and my pedals are on a board with rubber feet under it. It sits on top of my rack case and I have had no problems with it falling off.
  3. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Whatchu got against velcro?

    I feel as though the magnets might mess with some of your signal chain. I have nothing to back that up other than a gut feeling. But, in some cases, you can't just willy nilly put magnets and electronic gear together. I'm perfectly willing to admit there may be no problem whatsoever with doing it. But it seems like a much more complicated solution than velcro (or perhaps even putting the dang things on the floor..... gravity works great as well.)
  4. Stick_Player

    Stick_Player Banned

    Nov 13, 2009
    Somewhere on the Alaska Panhandle (Juneau)
    Endorser: Plants vs. Zombies Pea Shooters
    Works well here.
  5. beans-on-toast

    beans-on-toast Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2008
    Magnets aren't attracted to aluminum and magnesium alloy. They do stick to steel. Likewise, maggots are attracted to cheese.

    So it depends on what type of material the pedal case is made of. Why not get a magnet and test it on your pedal.
  6. dukeplaysbass

    dukeplaysbass Supporting Member

    For a while, I kept my pedals in a rack drawer in my rig. It was a pretty good solution because the few pedals I do run stay on almost all the time, and I am a big fan of keeping everything as compact as possible.

    Eventually, my intentions backfired. At one point, I has a 2U amp, rack power conditioner, rack tuner, rack wireless, the drawer and pedals, and I was dragging around an 8U rack - so much for compact.

    I hung on to the rack drawer on the off chance I got the itch to ry that configuration again. Give me a shout if you're interested in it; I think you know where to find me.
  7. I would caution against using magnets. The relationship between magnetism and electron flow is undeniable. There is a reason magnetic shielding exists in some electronic applications.
  8. dmrogers

    dmrogers Supporting Member

    Jan 26, 2005
    Eastman, GA
    This is what I use:

    Velcro Industrial Strips

    Been using them for years. I have strips on all of my heads, and in my rack. The pedals (tuners etc...) don't even think of coming off.
  9. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Supporting Member

    If you really, really don't want something to shift...this stuff is far beyond velcro:

    3M Dual-Lock:http://www.shop3m.com/dual-lock-adh...ck-low-profile-reclosable-fastener-group.html

    It's expensive, but if you check the price list you can buy a 10-foot strip of it for $23. This stuff is REALLY TOUGH. I use it to fasten down microphones in classrooms. The adhesive is very stout, and the material uses plastic-tip fasteners to lock together. It NEVER comes apart accidentally.
  10. chienmort


    Aug 15, 2012
    Static magnets will cause no harm. It is only when you move them that it causes a problem.
  11. Skarekrough


    Aug 7, 2006
    Nothing against velcro.....now springs on the other hand...

    It isn't about the adhesion in that sense. I know the stuff you're talking about and have used it in the past.

    The thing I am talking about is not having to glue something to pedals or other devices in order to be able to use them with velcro or any other material. I want to be able to find a way to mount a pedal to something quickly and easily and be able to move it around and not have to glue anything to the bottom of a pedal.
  12. DeathFromBelow

    DeathFromBelow Never Forget. Banned

    Dec 23, 2010
    Horten, Norway
    I just put my "always on" pedals on the floor right in front of or next to the cab. No engineering required, and they're still out of the way.
  13. Twocan

    Twocan Living the Dream Supporting Member

    Oct 5, 2009
    Medway, MA
    +1, my PT Mini fits right underneath my slantback Markbass combo.