Gentle (but not too gentle) Into That Good Night: Aging gracefully as a jazz bassist

To update my post above, after multiple ice baths for my hand and massage sessions around the trigger points causing the pain, I was completely fine last night. No pain.

I usually find that with the increased humidity, my basses seem to get duller in sound (water-logged?) and not as loose feeling and forgiving to play. My experience the last couple of days just reinforced the need to be very mindful of my setup so as to not cause health issues. I have important gigs coming up next week (both outdoors in possible full blown humidity) and the thought of having to play them through pain was pretty discouraging.

 

It's Jazz Fest time here in The People's Republic of Burlington (VT), which for me means multiple gig days, much schlepping of instruments and gear, and varying weather conditions. Fortunately, my 150+ year-old Tyrolean tends to react minimally to humidity changes, so for me it comes down to protecting my back (lift with the legs!) and dealing with sore finger pads on my right (plucking) hand. For this, I find that icing them for several minutes at night seems to take away the discomfort the next day. Open abrasions can be successfully covered with Super Glue (I know, it's not sterile, but after 38 years of this I still have all my fingers!). If the humidity spikes and the bass neck starts to feel sticky and clammy, a little baby powder rubbed on the back of the neck smooths it out. Also around this time of year I like to do a good cleaning of my several year-old Spiro Mittels with Xylol. Even though I religiously clean them after every gig with alcohol, I'm always surprised to see the black gunk that comes off them when using Xylol. It's important to do this in a well ventilated area (preferably outside!), use rubber gloves, and protect the bass, as this stuff is nasty!

Summer is a great time here; warm weather, lots of gigs that pay better, everyone's in a good mood!

 

To take a line from the Eagles
Time passes and we must move on
Half the distance takes us twice as long
But we keep on singin for the sake of the song......
A musician is not what we do,
It’s who we are
Duke

 

Dunno, Chris, "aging" and "graceful" are not words I normally associate together; what first comes to mind with the word "aging" is "combat."
As for LH thumb pain: as well as restricting remote and cellphone use to the right hand only, I mostly use the second finger in first position, not the index; for this chicken, there's a lot less force required to stop those low F's and Bb's if done with the middle finger and thumb.

 

I'm a yoga guy 4-5 times a week. I find it to be an artful, mindful practice that can be quite a workout when you are going for that. Strength, balance, flexibility, aerobic; all connected to the breath.

 

I'll second yoga. I get hot enough in a session that I'm scared to try a hot yoga class! I started with classes in Vinyasa Flow and then switched to Kundalini. I take it more often online and through videos these days.

 

After several decades as a karate hobbiest, I’ve been doing tai chi for the last three years - finally made it through the entire (short) form!

Yoga is the Bomb - I need to add more of that along with cardio.

 

68yo here: "clinical" shoulders and a bad knee. some slowly developing arthritis in hands.


denial !!!

 

I used to do hot occasionally in my fifties, but now at 65, I think it's too much. The heat really loosens your muscles up, but I think it's more stressful physically. They don't offer it at my studio and that works for me. My wife also practices regularly, but at a different studio. My daughter used to attend with me when she was in High School, and continues her practice, so we're a yoga family.

When you start Chris, just like bass playing, go slow. Take some introductory classes. I think Hatha is a good way to start as you really have the time for concentration to learn the poses well without having to rush into the next pose as in a flow class. Better for older folks getting started, too. You'll know when and if it's time to move into more challenging classes, like Vinyassa Flow, Ashtanga...

 

I'm younger than the question is maybe aimed at, but a few lessons with an Alexander technique teacher (who is also a serious professional classical bassist) and starting to practice tai chi have combined to give me way more stamina and solve lower back pain issues

tai chi seems to me to help with less directly physical stuff too - focus, being in the moment etc...

 

Good thread, I've been thinking about this recently. I'm not too old, yet, I don't think ... Still, approaching 50 and working with some old injuries (tendinitis / tendinosis, some arthritis in my right knee, etc.) makes playing upright harder with each passing year.
I'll second (eighth?) the yoga recommendation. I never took fancy classes; I just learned from a Richard Hittleman paperback. When I'm doing it regularly, I can tell the difference: I'm more conscious of my whole body, my posture, unnecessary tension, breathing, etc. Little things like that can make a big difference in how tired or sore I feel after a long gig.
Unfortunately, the knee issues are starting to trump that. To deal with the pain, I've had to get used to playing sitting down, which for me makes it harder to keep the relaxed, fluid posture I get when I'm standing. I'm still experimenting with the correct sitting position, and hoping to find a happy medium.
Still, even at my best, I'm finding that I'm more and more sore after long gigs, and I see a day when I'm not going to be able to cut it on upright anymore. I'm not quite sure what to do about that. I suppose there's always the shift to fretless. I'm not opposed to that, but I hate the grief I get from "legit" folks about playing fretless over upright. Audiences also really seem to want the upright, even if they don't know a damn thing about jazz, just because it looks "cooler." Maybe if I get some funky 6-string fretless with a wild shape and fancy woods, it'll distract people long enough that they won't notice it's not an upright ...

 

P90X III. Seriously. I know it looks cheesy and shallow, but it sure works for me. No gimmicks and minimal equipment. And it's super easy to modify to fit your current fitness level. It's pretty much the same stuff a personal trainer would have you do if you went that route, I'm guessing.

 

More restorative exercises (yoga, swimming, walking, Pilates, tai chi) and less intensive exercises with age.

It's still vitally important to push our bodies... but a different way from when we were younger (and felt invincible).

For Intensive workouts...
- Train smarter, not harder.
- 2-3 intensive workouts a week only as recovery is slower.
- always warmup & cooldown.
- progress slooooowly.
- listen closely to your body for little cues of strain, fatigue, poor form, etc.
- if struggling, break it down into constituent parts and focus on one key area.
- have several health practitioners to treat, maintain and guide you through your old injuries/aches.
- have realistic goals.
- have realistic time frames.
- be kind to yourself.


I'm 5 weeks into a 14-week snowboard training program and feeling alive. I don't aim to be the best, I just want to do my best.

I met an 83yo man skiing and ask him his secret. "Go slow, but don't give up!"

 

Ha, yeah, that's exactly it. Standing, I'm used to moving a lot, very Tai Chi like ... Sitting makes me feel more stable, but sometimes I feel like I can't be exactly where I want to be as easily. There's no danger of me giving up on it, though - my knee won't let me ...

 

Great suggestions here on the movement front, i’d like to recommend less sugar as well.

I’ve been on the keto diet for the last 6 months. That means very minimal carbohydrates and sugar, lots of protein and fat.

So no bread, no potatoes, no fruit (sucrose), no chocolate, no beer etc.
Lots of meat, cream in my coffee, eggs, bacon, kale, brocolli, spinach, cabbage, whiskey!

I know it’s a bit of a fad at the moment, but it’s the mental side of this way of eating that keeps me from straying.

My brain feels de-fogged and clear. No more sugar crashes after the gig!

 

I'm finding that little technical flaws are showing up as pain. You can play great with less than ideal technique, but somewhere down the line, in my case decades, something will hurt. Flat fingers, hunched shoulders, rounded spine, more weight on one foot, tight bow hand....fix it sooner than later cause you're gonna have to fix it sometime.