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Genzler Array cabs

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by geophreigh, Jun 15, 2019.

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  1. Jun 15, 2019 #1
    geophreigh

    geophreigh the artist formerly known as tb-player™️ Supporting Member

    Mar 6, 2019
    Maryland
    I play a Genzler Magellan 800. Absolutely my favorite amp ever. Right now, I play it through a pair of Bergantino Reference 212s.

    I love the sound, but the cabs are a little heavy and could use a bit more punch. I tried pairing one of the 212s with a Berg Ref 210, but didn't love the sound & returned it.

    I've been looking at the Genzler Array Series... possibly combining a BA12 with a BA10. I think that would make my Magellan really shine and give me a bit more punch (my main bass is an Overwater Jazz 5-String w/ East preamp).

    Any thoughts on the Array series? Thx.
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  2. Jun 16, 2019 #2
    Wasnex

    Wasnex

    Dec 25, 2011
    I have not played any of the Array series, but I think it would be helpful if you define what "punch" means to you, so everyone has better understanding of what you want.
     
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  3. Jun 17, 2019 #3
    DrSteve

    DrSteve Supporting Member

    Dec 22, 2008
    North Delaware
    I switched from a Markbass Tube 500 with 121 and 102 speaker config to Genzler 350 combo with extra BA10-2 cabs and found it brighter, more clear, and better articulate, with an even balance up the neck (using Hofner German and CT basses). Not the same configuration you have, but still a marked improvement with the Arrays.

    If you can't try the Arrays, which would be best, take a look at the Genzler Amplification User Group thread and see what they're saying.

    Good luck
     
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  4. Jun 17, 2019 #4
    tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    Comparing Bergantino cabs to Genzler cabs is definitely "different flavors of great," and it's going to come down to personal preference. I would also echo Wasnex's question about how you define "punch." I am also unsure in regard to which cabs you have. There is no "Reference 212." The Reference Series consists of a 1x12 and a 2x10, unless you have some prototypes (in which case, color me jealous!). ;)
     
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  5. Jun 17, 2019 #5
    geophreigh

    geophreigh the artist formerly known as tb-player™️ Supporting Member

    Mar 6, 2019
    Maryland
    Ahhh... my bad. I have 2 Ref112s. And they're wonderful. Warm, almost piano tones. But when I slap, they are lacking (just a little)... probably because I have played 410s my entire life and my ears are still getting accustomed to the 12s. The Arrays, with the line of drivers makes me wonder if they might better fill what I'm missing in the Bergs. Granted the 410 ship has sailed and I don't want to go back to that. I guess I'll need to take my bass to a store and give the Arrays a go. (It's so difficult to 'discuss tone' on the internets)
     
  6. Jun 18, 2019 #6
    tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    Yes, if you can get your ears in the same room, that would be the best. Bring your Ref112's and compare directly, if possible. So much great gear out there nowadays!!! :thumbsup:
     
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  7. Jun 18, 2019 #7
    Djadja

    Djadja Supporting Member

    May 25, 2010
    Santa Barbara Wine Country
    Yeah talking about tone is like dancing about architecture... @tombowlus suggestion about taking one of your Bergs to the store if possible makes a lot of sense.

    There is a 410 array... and the 210 array is available in the SLT version. That might fill your needs better than the BA12-3.

    I have the BA12-3 and a 110-2. The 12 is more round and deeper while the 10 feels more focused and a little brighter. Neither gives you the kind of brightness you get from a “normal” tweeter equipped cab. The trebles are very present but never harsh. Dispersion is excellent although I feel that I need to get them off the floor and closer to my ears to hear them well. Could be my old ears or the dispersion characteristics that give up some vertical coverage for better horizontal coverage - hence the advantage of the SLT versions.

    I moved to the BA12-3 from an Acme B2 which I found to be too pillowy and the bass overwhelmed the mids and trebles. Then I got the BA350 combo for home use and small gigs. The arrays were/are the perfect solution for me. I don’t really slap... and play primarily a fretless.
     
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