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Get a 'bigger' head (more watts) or add a cab — (Ampeg pf)

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by nicstef, Mar 23, 2016.


  1. nicstef

    nicstef

    Mar 14, 2016
    Nantes, FR
    Hi everyone. I'm playing more and more with my band and I'm starting to feel some limitation with my gear amp (Ampeg pf-500 with Mark Bass Club 102 --> 250W@8ohm).
    I wondering whether I should upgrade to the pf-800 of add another cab to have the 4ohm and benefit from the full 500W of the head). The idea is to get more headroom and "presence" without having to push the volume to high…
    Which of these options do you think is better?
     
  2. cfsporn

    cfsporn

    Aug 20, 2011
    New York City
    Add another cab.
     
  3. mmbongo

    mmbongo Dilly Dilly! Supporting Member

    Aug 5, 2009
    Carolinas
    Another cabinet. A PF800 into that single cabinet wouldn't gain you anything, as you're already pushing it to it's limit. You could also just replace it entirely with a 4x10.
     
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  4. nicstef

    nicstef

    Mar 14, 2016
    Nantes, FR
    Thanks a lot :) I'll do that then!
     
  5. /\/\3phist0

    /\/\3phist0 Mesa Engineering! Warwick-G&L-Source Audio

    May 7, 2007
    Stanislaus
    add a cab, or replace with 1 or 2 "better" cabs (better=more sensitive and/ or more cone surface) 410 412 2x210 2x212 2x15 or 2x115
     
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  6. nicstef

    nicstef

    Mar 14, 2016
    Nantes, FR
    The cab I have now is a 2x10 and I like it because it is very lightweight, I enjoy that I can carry it around easily in one hand, with the bass in the other and the rest of the gear in the backpack… There still might be some circumstances where I wouldn't necessarily need both cabs. So I'm not really considering going for a 410. So What would you preferably add to that: a 1x15 or another 2x10?
     
  7. cfsporn

    cfsporn

    Aug 20, 2011
    New York City
    Another 210 just like the one you have would yield the most consistent results. Also, if you stack them vertically, you will get better sound in the room.
     
  8. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2007
    Toronto Ontario Canada
    As you have been advised, a second identical cabinet is better than any other kind. It’s certainly way better than a 4x10. In a vertical stack dispersion in great out in the room. It’s what I use, in my case Acme, and I’d never go back to any other way of stacking them. :)

    to address the question in the thread title, more cabs trumps more power every time! To get twice as loud you would need to increase your power by ten times!
     
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2016
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  9. Lowbrow

    Lowbrow Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2008
    Pittsburgh PA!
    Add cab.
     
  10. nicstef

    nicstef

    Mar 14, 2016
    Nantes, FR
    Thank you all for your replies!
     
  11. arai

    arai Banned

    Jul 16, 2007
    Another cab, for sure
     
  12. Add a cabinet. I have the same head. Also, going direct to the house out of the head and using the 2x10 as your stage monitor is another option if your gig spots can do that. Of course, you didn't specify the type of music you are playing. If I went back to metal or was in a Led Zep or AC/DC cover band, I'd need more headroom than I can get out of the PF-500 at 4 ohms. I've had no issues pushing this head hard. Play it until it blows up and then put down the cash to buy more power.
     
  13. Joedog

    Joedog

    Jan 28, 2010
    Pensacola FL
    YES for the 2nd cab. It's not so much that you are getting more watts from your amp, but more importantly, you're able to move twice the air. You can always take one cab for the quieter gigs. PLUS (depending on your situation) leave a cab at the rehearsal room, the other at home, and just carry your head back and forth. Easy peasy.
     
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