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ghost of tom joad

Discussion in 'Recordings [BG]' started by JWC, Mar 19, 2001.


  1. JWC

    JWC Banned

    Oct 4, 2000
    what is this Bruce Springstein song about? i think the aftermath of armagedon. any ideas? cool little tune
     
  2. gweimer

    gweimer

    Apr 6, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    I believe Tom Joad is the main character in The Grapes Of Wrath by John Steinbeck. You might try reading that for some answers.
     
  3. JWC

    JWC Banned

    Oct 4, 2000
    oh, i am learning disabled to a degree. i have trouble reading. it takes me like 4 hours to read 2 pages of something. im not kidding either. so, spare me the drama of enduring some book i escaped grade school without having to read.
     
  4. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    some school you went to. :rolleyes:

    to answer the question, tom joad is a character in the story, as well as the name of a song that woodie guthrie wrote the night he saw the movie version of the grapes of wrath.
     
  5. JWC

    JWC Banned

    Oct 4, 2000
    thanks man. But JT, I was forced to suffer through Huck Finn, Ethan Frome, Beowoulfe(sp), Great Expectations, Romeo and Juliet, and Lord Of The Flies. In college I suffered through, Don Quixote, Candide, Faust, McBeth, The Odyssey, etc. All of which make me hate literature. But I do dig beat literature like Kerouac and Ginsberg.
     
  6. i have read all of those, but never considered it suffering.

    i am thinking you might like the catcher in the rye.
    another great book is working by studds turkle, mostly short stories of the working man, shouldn't disrupt your A.D.D.
     
  7. Dave Castelo

    Dave Castelo

    Apr 19, 2000
    Mexico
    but then he get mad and try to murder John Lennon again...:rolleyes:
     
  8. NJXT

    NJXT

    Jan 9, 2001
    Lyon, FRANCE
    Wo. So, you probably don't read many TB threads a day ?
     
  9. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    you didn't like those? i concur on ethan frome, but the rest of them i've considered leisure reading - shoot i had to read candide en francais.

    i got barbara, my woman, a boxed set of tapes of kerouac readings. very groovy travelling music, i highly recommend it.
     
  10. gweimer

    gweimer

    Apr 6, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Geez, you call that suffering! I had to read War and Peace in 3 days! I'm happy to say that it's really good, so it was worth the effort.
     
  11. NJXT

    NJXT

    Jan 9, 2001
    Lyon, FRANCE
    Yuk ! Candide is an excellent satyrical/philosophical book but even for a french it's not that easy to read ... and to like ;)
     
  12. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    yeah, it was a project for an advanced french class i had in high school. i also had to read camus' l'etranger and sartre's huis clos en francais. what a pair of depressing authors. i loved it - leave it to frenchmen to take existentialism and give it real angst, eh? :D

    i'd love to see a camus-sartre grudge match. actually, from what i've heard about those two, they had a few occasionally.
     
  13. gweimer

    gweimer

    Apr 6, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Hmmmmm.....suddenly, I'm understanding WHY the 75-string basses and the mullet....... :D
     
  14. JWC

    JWC Banned

    Oct 4, 2000
    But lets face facts JT. It was Spring semester. The Georgia weather outside is beautiful. The sun is shining. People are out riding bikes and rollerblading. People hanging out at the park, playing acoutic guitars and just hanging out. People sitting out by the pool, tanning, enjoying a few brews. JWC, sits inside muddling through a bunch of crap written in outdated dialect. I want to live man, not read some stupid allegory about the French government 6000 years ago. ya know.
     
  15. I agree wil JWC (I always see JWC and JMX and I think they are the same person), I hate outdated dialects, like Romeo and Juliet, how does it help us in life anyway?
     
  16. NJXT

    NJXT

    Jan 9, 2001
    Lyon, FRANCE
    I'm not a specialist in contemporary philosophers but I believe they had serveral hard times and arguments in St Germain des Prés.
    I've only read "La nausée" by Sartre and ... man ... it left me depressed ... but less stupid ;)
     
  17. NJXT

    NJXT

    Jan 9, 2001
    Lyon, FRANCE
    Isn't it something like : "Knowing and understanding the past helps you handling the present and preventing wrong futures ..."
     
  18. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    yeah, true, true. :D
     
  19. Steve Lawson

    Steve Lawson Solo Bass Exploration! Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2000
    Birmingham, UK
    ..only if a good tan is more important than a good brain... :oops:)

    and surely there's a balance? a time to tan and a time to read (turn, turn turn)...

    ...and to the guy who said what's the point of Shakespear - why does the outdatedness of the dialect affect the potency of the story/message/poetry? To suggest that everything that has value has to be written in the dialect of the reader surely cuts out a heck of a lot of great writing... I'd never have read Keroac (sp?), Toni Morrison, Zora Neal Thurston, Irving Welsh, Sean Hughes or anyone else who writes in a different dialect to the one I speak (which is pretty dull middle-english for the most part) - it's all about broadening your sphere of influence, my dear boy! :oops:)

    cheers

    Steve
    www.steve-lawson.co.uk
     
  20. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Actually, I tend to read more when it gets sunny! I usually go to the Greek Islands twice a year and always take some "weighty tomes" with me, to read on the beach, inbetween swimming.

    I also like sitting and reading in our local park when the weather is fine - which wasn't too often last year! But as soon as the sun comes out my girlfriend drags me out and I usually grab a book to read!

    I also had to read a few existentialist books in French - having done French A Level, but also quite enjoyed this - La Chute and La Peste, amongst others!