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Giving a Jazz bass some balls.

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by Tommygunn, Sep 21, 2010.


  1. Tommygunn

    Tommygunn

    Nov 8, 2008
    Houston, Tx
    What are the most bassly pickups for a jazz for inder $100.

    I like the sound of jazzes but I've never played one that I've gotten a really tough and ballsy sound from.

    I'm thinkin like Flea or Timmy C, BTW.

    Thanks guys.
     
  2. 4StringTheorist

    4StringTheorist Supporting Member

    First, try leaving it alone, favoring one pickup a touch and giving a nice boost to the low mids (200-350ish Hz.. in there somewhere) and cutting just a smidgen of bass (if you're boosting your bass EQ, quit.)

    Play like that with your band so you can hear it in the mix. See what you think.

    For $110, you can also check out these. But I'd say first thing is to back off a bit on the bass EQ, and bring up your low mids. You'll cut like a hot knife through butter.
     
  3. Mystic Michael

    Mystic Michael Hip No Ties

    Apr 1, 2004
    New York, NY
  4. Tommygunn

    Tommygunn

    Nov 8, 2008
    Houston, Tx
    Haha Thats exactly what I do! My amp is normallt set on: bass-2, mids-10, treble-6

    No luck. I get a good tone but it's not all there.

    I'm thinking like in this song at 2:22

    And I realize that it may've been recorded with a musicman or modulus but I know full well you can get that kinda balls with a jazz.
     
  5. TRob1293

    TRob1293

    Feb 1, 2008
    Louisville, KY
    +1 on the Model J's (DiMarzio).

    Search around - you can get them for $100 - I dug deep and got them for $90, new, shipped. (on sale I think?)
     
  6. k5koy

    k5koy

    Oct 27, 2008
    Dallas, Tx.
    I am really happy with my Geddy Lee Jazz bass. I got me some VintageVibe PU's and an Audere Jazz preamp and since putting those in, it has become "King of the Jazz Basses" IMHO. Wasnt real crazy about having to remove the control plate to change the battery, so I routed out the back and added a battery box. One Bass I will never get rid of! Absolutely quiet, zero hum, and with the high & low Z make sounds that no other bass can match. Wasnt cheap, but well worth the price of admission.

    Koy

    West Texas



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  7. BritPicker

    BritPicker

    Apr 20, 2009
    Add a series/parallel switch. The series sound has a lot more oomph. I use it all the time.
     
  8. TimB 619

    TimB 619 Guest

    May 28, 2010
    +2 on the Model J's those things hit like a punch in the gut-in a really good way though!
     
  9. darkstorm

    darkstorm

    Oct 13, 2009
    Dimarzio J's and a good 2 or 3 band eq preamp. Adjust each pup for best tone solo'd to you then tweak that a little for both pups together full on. Slightly rolling off the neck or bridge for your other two main voices with this setup. A little boost of the bass eq if needed. What wood is your basses body made of? Mahogany gives the best dark ballsy tone imo.
     
  10. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
    alpha-music.com
    uh, i suspect flea and timmy are using plain ol' stock jazz bass pickups.

    the "balls" comes from the rig.

    (that said, fralins kick butt.)
     
  11. lumerino

    lumerino

    Jul 24, 2009
  12. lug

    lug Supporting Member

    Feb 11, 2005
    League City, Tx
    This! Will make a bigger difference than swapping out pups.
     
  13. coronado3

    coronado3 Supporting Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    Indiana, USA
    I am lovin' the seymour duncan single coil "Hot" pickups- scjb-2.

    The quarter pounders are suposed to be even heavier.
     
  14. Nedmundo

    Nedmundo Supporting Member

    Jan 7, 2005
    Philadelphia
    I think Timmy C winds his own pickups, but otherwise a big +1. With the right rig, a Jazz has plenty of "balls," aggression, whatever you want to call it. And for that, I use Fralins.

    A series/parallel switch is a good idea too. I have the S-1 on my 2003 Jazz, and it's useful. I might take this route on my incoming G&L JB to give it a little more punch without spending mucho $$$ for new pickups.
     
  15. Bartolini's and Delanos. I've used both and they sound great. Barts are my personal favorite.
     
  16. SteveC

    SteveC Moderator Staff Member

    Nov 12, 2004
    Eastern North Dakota
    passive jazz basses have always been louder and more aggressive sounding to me than my active basses. how much balls do you need?
     
  17. FunkMetalBass

    FunkMetalBass

    Aug 5, 2005
    Phoenix, Arizona 85029
    Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses
    Used Aguilar OBP-3. Don't change the pickups - add a preamp.
     
  18. Kipaste

    Kipaste

    Jun 27, 2006
    Helsinki, Finland
    It's been said already. Dimarzio J's. Ridiculous oomph for jazz style pups. Add a series/parallel switch and it'll be borderline ridiculous.

    However, based on the soundclip, lot of low end oomph isn't exactly how I'd describe that tone as it's very grindy and has a lot of high end. And for that, basic single coils should do fine. Just dig in on your new strings like you'd wan't to go right through the bass, keep the high end there, roll of a little of lows, dial in the sweetspot for those mids and push it through a powerful amp and good speaker. I think you should be able to get pretty close on any bass even though the original sounds very much like a bridge position humbucker to my ears. It's all about the insane attack.
     
  19. recnsci

    recnsci

    Apr 8, 2010
    This. But I would put it this way:
    Right Hand - most important by wide margin. Than strings and rig. Than p'ups.

    BTW, yes, don't do that both p'ups at 11 thing. Beside working out exact balance, play with p'up heights and tilt, very important imho. For instance, my neck p'up is tilted to treble side as much as it could go, bridge a bit mor even, neck is fully on, and bridge is backed down enough to provide enough midfreq body but leave mids and highs unscooped. I get agressive enough pick sound even with rather neutral and bland Daddario EXLs.

    offtopic:
    That particular Fleas' sound was probably direct recording, but for that tone I would get something ampegish and 4x10ish. Another thing, most of three band amp EQs are inadequate for fine sculpting. Get some fine graphic EQ (I personaly prefere fully parametric ones, but I'm wierd).
     
  20. Tommygunn

    Tommygunn

    Nov 8, 2008
    Houston, Tx

    I'm not sure where you're gettin your barts but all the ones I've tried have been mellow and woody.
     
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