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GK 410RBH louder than 210RBH + 115RBH?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Alleyhookin, May 1, 2005.


  1. Alleyhookin

    Alleyhookin

    May 1, 2005
    I'm buying a GK 1001RB II shortly and prob running with 210RBH and 115RBH cabinets when playing live. I've noticed that the 410RBH is rated at 800W while both the 210 and 115 are 400W.

    Would the 410 alone have potential to be SIGNIFICANTLY louder than my preffered setup? I suspect my the 210 and 115 will be pretty loud anyway.

    note the head puts out 700W @ 4 ohms and 460W @ 8 ohms.

    Cheers
     
  2. If you get a 4 ohm version of the 410RBH, it would be roughly the same but more agressive than the 210/115.
     
  3. tornadobass

    tornadobass Supporting Member

    Nov 20, 2000
    Iowa City, Iowa
    Endorsing Artist: Black Diamond & SuperSensitive strings
    I have an SWR Goliath II 410 and Eden D115T and D210T cabs. From my experience, the 15 + 210 setup is louder and clearer with less volume...and it puts the highs closer to your ears so you can hear better, too.

    Notice that if you get an 8 ohm 410 and compare it to a 15+210 stack, you'll likely be getting 4 ohms from the stack, so that it can get more power from the amp.
     
  4. xcental34x

    xcental34x

    Feb 28, 2003
    Memphrica, TN
    So Dan, what you're saying is that I need to get a 410RBH and 115RBH?
     
  5. If you just want loud and aggressive, go with the RBH, but if you want loud with great lowend and smooth highs and mids, go with the GK Neo 412.
     
  6. xcental34x

    xcental34x

    Feb 28, 2003
    Memphrica, TN
    Which is going to have a more hi-fi slap sound?
     
  7. The Neo 412. It adapts really well to different playing styles.
     
  8. Alleyhookin

    Alleyhookin

    May 1, 2005
    Thanks guys, I'm not real keen on lugging too much gear arond so the 115 + 210 combination seem like a good bet.
     
  9. tornadobass

    tornadobass Supporting Member

    Nov 20, 2000
    Iowa City, Iowa
    Endorsing Artist: Black Diamond & SuperSensitive strings
    About the 15 + 210 combination, either cab will be easier to lift and carry than a 410...unless you go the neo route. You also get the flexibility of just using the 210 for smaller gigs.

    After using a 410 for a few years, I'm enjoying the 15 + 210 rig...having the 210 up higher is helpful for hearing myself, too.
     
  10. wyleeboxer

    wyleeboxer Supporting Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    Orange County, CA
    This question is for Dan. I had a 2x10 and 1x15 RBH cabs, they sounded great but the reason I sold them (only the 1x15 so far) was when i would stack the 2x10 on top it would sometimes come close to vibrating off because the cabs couldnt interlock and where so different is size. Was this a flaw in the design? Im still trying to sell my 2x10 which I just bought, but I was disapointed when I recieved it because for lack of a better word "it didnt fit" and since it was a special order I cant return it!

    Thanks
     
  11. permagrin

    permagrin

    May 1, 2003
    San Pedro, CA
    Depends on the sensitivity of the cabs, as well as the impedance. Has nothing to do with power handling ratings.

    Assuming the 210/115 cabs are 8 ohm, the two togeher (4 ohms) will draw the full 700W from the head. The 410 has roughly the same speaker area (a bit less) but if it's also 8 ohm it will only draw 460W from the head, and be significantly softer. If it is a 4 ohm cab, it'll draw the same 700W and with roughly the same cone area and assuming reasonably close sensitivity (all GKs) it will produce about the same volume.

    At that point it would become a matter of taste; some people don't like mixing speaker sizes, some don't mind, ....