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going from triad to henry the 8x8?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by jasonbraatz, Oct 20, 2001.


  1. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz

    Oct 18, 2000
    Oakland, CA
    ok, i've recently been hearing alot about the henry the 8x8, so i did some research. not only is it around the same price used as the triad, but it's more efficient, only 20 lbs heavier, AND has a lower frequency response!


    so...i know this cab is LOUD, but what would be louder/better sounding?

    running my dcm1000 stereo, one into the henry, one into my goliath jr (350watts/channel)?

    or ditching the jr altogether and running 1000w bridged into the henry?


    or - leaving what i have? i might be a little wary of not having a 15". is the bottom on this thing big enough to make me not care about not having a 15?


    btw - i'm running a warwick thumb into a SWR interstellar overdrive, bellari tube compressor, and DCM1000. i'm looking for a fat, clean, bottom with lots of punch, but enough high end to make everything sparkle.


    jason
     
  2. leper

    leper

    Jun 21, 2001
    the henry was made for warwicks...it enhances that real thick low end alot, with a much quicker response than a 15

    as for it being loud, i really disagree. the one reason I chose the gol sr over the henry was I needed volume. the henry sounds better to me, but if youre in an aggressive musical setting i would think youre gonna need more than just that (doesnt handle enough wattage to really kick your ass....1k would kill the poor thing). Two side by side would sound awesome, but thats a pretty big rig to cart around. No sweat to me, but I notice you have both smaller cabs, so that may be a concern for you.

    i say keep what you have an add the henry, cuz as we know, bigger is always better :)

    realistically, im not really sure what your reasons are for upgrading. if you think it sounds that much better then go for it, but keep in mind its alot bigger than either of the cabs you have, and alot heavier to boot.

    edit: spelling and grammer
     
  3. captainpabst

    captainpabst

    Mar 18, 2001
    Tennessee
    i've got a henry with a Bass 750...i think it sounds killer. it's very tight and articulate. if you tweak the eq a little, you can get a phat bottom. it plays as loud as i can imagine myself needing to be, from 100-200 person clubs to a 1000-1200 person gymnasium or auditorium (not metal, tho).

    that said, i believe there are some limitations. it's not just hugely loud. awhile back i played a sunn 300t thru a sunn 2x15. the volume and gain were on 3. that was absolutely ridiculous! i thought all the basses were going to fall off the walls in the display room! the thing must've been felt throughout the entire store. i've never played anything else quite that loud. my henry and 750 pale in comparison to the 300t/2x15 volumewise.

    also, as far as a phat bottom goes, it'll do that....but not like a couple 15's will. the henry is so tight and compact, even when it's loud. it never sounds like it's going to kill you, like the sunn does, for instance.

    the henry is very clean, very accurate, very studio sounding, imo. i happen to like that.

    anyway, to stop rambling and sum up - i think the henry is the best sounding swr cab i've heard (and i've head them all). it will play loud accurately, but it won't play stupid loud - the power handling is only rated at 480w (but i do run 750 into it with no problem). you can get a phat tight bottom out of it, but not a huge all tube/2x15 bottom.

    i imagine running the henry and the triad together would be a KILLER rig. i can't think of a way you could work in the goliath jr with the dcm1000 impedance-wise, though.

    i've been thinking about an additional cab lately, and i keep coming back to www.acmebass.com - it's possible that the lowb4 could make you forget about 15's forever, but i dunno...
     
  4. I saw my old bass teacher play with his band once, and he (if I remeber right) had 2 Henrys and was powering them with a SVT4 pro. That rig was pretty loud, and had plenty of bottom. He had some kind of deal with SWR where he got the stuff real cheap. I remember him talking about how they were trying to get him to buy like 3 megoliaths. He would have done it because they were so cheap, but that is way to much to move around.

    Either way you go you won't be disappointed. Just about anything from SWR will sound good.

    jtbp
     
  5. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz

    Oct 18, 2000
    Oakland, CA
    just had kind of a wierd idea -


    what would it sound like if i run the henry bridged from the DCM and then plug the goliath jr into the speaker out of the IOD (the all tube out one?) the manual says that there can be some added phasing that may be very desirable....


    well...guess there's only one way to fine out!



    jason
     
  6. captainpabst

    captainpabst

    Mar 18, 2001
    Tennessee
    the IOD is just a preamp though - i'm nearly positive the output you're talking about is meant to run to an amplifier and THEN a speaker cab.

    when i said i couldn't think of a way the jr could work with the triad and henry and dcm1000 impedence-wise, i was wrong. you can run either side of that amp at 2 ohms, so two 4 ohm cabs on one side and 1 on the other would be no problem.
    but then the power is spread a little thin, i think.

    i think bridging the dcm1000 into an acme low B4 would rock the house. heheh. well, good luck however ya go - :cool:
     
  7. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz

    Oct 18, 2000
    Oakland, CA
    nope - the IOD has a complete all tube power section, and can drive speakers all by itself.


    neat huh?



    jason
     
  8. Yeah, that's neato! A monster FOUR watts!
     
  9. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz

    Oct 18, 2000
    Oakland, CA
    hey, but it's four TUBE watts!


    actually they say it's somewhere between 4 and 8, but i've heard as much as 20 for a pair of EL84's so who knows....


    it's actually kinda loud. probably not loud enough to add any volume to that rig i mentioned, but enough to color the tone a bit.


    oh well...no point in talking about it - i gotta go try it!!!


    jason