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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Luis Fabara, Sep 30, 2001.
If you could choose one of those, for the same price...
Which would you get and why?
I love the Goliath Senior. I think the 6x10 is the perfect compromise between the portability of a 4x10 and the HUGE sound of an 8x10. And SWR really got it right when they built this one! This is one of my favorite cabs anywhere.
I like Eden speaker cabs, but not the XLT. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I may be) but isn't that the one with the two ports? One shelf port on top and another on bottom? If so, then I really, really don't like what that does to the sound. It seems to unnaturally emphasize a small range of low frequencies. That gives it a pretty good thump if that's what you're looking for, but it just doesn't sound right to me. I really like the one with no port and even the one with one port (D-410T? and D-410XST?) Those two I rank right up there with the Goliath Senior on my list of favorites.
I chose the SWR, as I find that that is an excellent cab. A local store had one on sale for $750 brand new, and it I wasnt low on money I would of bought it. Either way it would be a nice cab, I would just prefer the extra speakers.
HAve you thought about this?
David (Eden) vs Goliath (SWR)
Uhmm... History Tells us that David won...
See? The Bible has all the answers.
well Luis, looks like you answered your own question with that last post
I tried out both... i considered buying both... went with eden... it had more balls.
Hey all, this is my first post.
If you like the Goliath Sr and the size doesnt bother you, you might want to look inot the Henry the 8X8. I side by side'd (is that a word?) them and to me, the Henry just sounded better. More top end, of course, but more bottom as well. It seemed to punch a little better, and had more warmness in the mids. Just my $0.02, but might be worth a look if you havnt already.
if i ever got some roadies i'd get a goliath sr, and a big bertha.
Luis your pretty sharp
Two of my favorite cabs. No way to choose, would depend on the amp. With a Mesa Boogie 400+ or Eden WT800, I'd take the D410XLT (my favorite 410, overall). With an SWR Bass 750, EA iAmp600 or other clean, powerful ss amp, I'd go with the Goliath Sr. I own both cabs and, except for the Mesa Boogie Road Ready 410, about all I ever use.
To each his own. I totally disagree. I find the nonXL Edens to be lacking in both punch and low-end authority when compared to their extended brethren. I briefly owned a D115 and didn't like it at all. My sole 15 right now is the D115XL and it's way better. I currently own D210XLT, D115XL, D410XLT and D215XLT. All superb cabs that suit my style very well.
I agree with boogiebass. I think that the XL cabs have much more low end than the non XL models. I play a 5 string, and have played through a D115 and a D210, and couldn't hear much below the low E.
I have a Metro combo, which basically is a D210XLT with a head mounted above it, and I have no problem with the low B.
I myself would choose the Eden, simply because my ears like the sound of them more than the swrs.
I've always been a four-string player. I never really felt a need to play anything lower than a D or maybe a D-flat. (I sometimes tune D A D G.) I just recently ordered my first five. I'm not really getting a five-string to play lower notes, but rather to play more without having to change position as often (ok, so I'm lazy). It is possible that I could change my mind when I try the XLT with a 5-string for reasons you have mentioned. I'll certainly give it another shot.
Like boogiebass said, it depends on your amp. I recently got an Eden 410 xlt cab after trying many others because it sounded best with my amp ( Carvin R600,bridged). The SWR 6x10 is one awesome cab,though.
Hey Luis, you thinkin about new cabs already?
This opinion may not be very popular, but I found the same, when I A/B-ed two heads I was interested in through a D-210 XLT (using a 5-stringer)
It did sound very impressive for it's size, but not very natural. The lows of 15" drivers e.g. have another 'quality' which sounds more natural to me, but of cause that's just MHO.
Yeah, I haven't thought of it that way but this is making perfectly good sense. OOOOO YEAH!!!
My vote goes to Goliath SR, from a used gear stand point, you get more bang for your buck with the goliath SR. rather then the eden D410xlt. Simply because the eden is a less effient cabinet in either the 8 or 4 ohm version. With the eden you get 700 watts RMS, and with the Goliath you get 1000 watts RMS. the prices I'v seen for the Goliath and the 410xlt are really similar some times 50 bucks more for the Goliath SR. Again this is only in the used market.
I think the D410xlt is better compared to the standard Goliath 4x10 which is also 700 watts rms, but does not come in a 4 ohm verison. In that race I would give my vote to eden.
Dont forget, in the simpsons cartoon goliath wins in "D vs G2 : stone cold"
I absolutely love my Goliath 4x10 don't get me wrong....but I really think it's a mid-high freq cab. Any thoughts I'd appreciate, but I keep hearing people say the Goliath has lots of deep tone and I just don't hear it. Even a low E on a 4 doesn't seem very deep on it. Don't get me wrong, the sound it produces I love...but I play all kinds of tunes from Metal-Jazz-Country and I don't like playing it unless I've got at least a 1x12 or 1x15 under it.
Tough decision! I like both cabs! I ultimately went with the 410XLT because it suits the band situations I am in best. I play mostly in Blues-Rock situations, and it has a low mid presence that I haven't found in other cabinets. Plus it has a ton of low end!