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Good funk bass (no price restriction)?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Dave Metts, Nov 11, 2001.


  1. Alright, I'm looking for a bass that can do funk (both fingerstyle and slap) really well, with an emphasis on fingerstyle. Tone-wise, think Stu Zender on the songs Travelling Without Moving and Cosmic Girl. I know he used a Warwick Streamer Stage II, but I don't like the baseball bat neck on Warwicks. Any other suggestions? I've been looking into Zon and Sadowsky, but I'm really interested in any other choices.

    Thanks a bunch!
     
  2. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    I dunno about Tone, but I head the MM/EBs are funk monsters...and I know that MTDs are funky, if played right. Maybe Modulus Quantum, which can be funky, IMHO...of course, that's just me...hey Doesn't Bootsy Collins and Rocco both play just Fender Ps? Seems if they can do it well onna P...
     
  3. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    No, neither of them do. Bootsy's been playing custom multi-pickup jobs for over 20 years. Rocco has a Conklin.
     
  4. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    My bad. I coulda swore....

    Anyway....Other than those two glaring oversights, I think I was fairly accurate.
     
  5. I've got a Stingray 5, and it's just not the tone I'm looking for. I absolutely love the tone Stu Zender gets in the songs I mentioned, but I can't stand Warwick necks.
     
  6. mark beem

    mark beem Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2001
    New Hope, Alabama
    Ernie Ball/Music Man has always been synonymous with "funk" bass. However I feel that any bass can suffice. It's more in the player than the guitar IMHO!
     
  7. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    I saw Zender playing "Alright" which, to me, has the same sound as those Jamir. songs you mentioned, (it has even more popping to my ears), and he was using an F Bass.

    Much as I usually hate to hear someone say something this hackneyed, but - doing funk well is much more a matter of the bassist than the bass, IME. My bread and butter is funk and one of the best fingerstyle funk tones I know is from a guy with an old Steinberger L-2 and a Hartke Kickback!....Go figure
     
  8. Angus

    Angus Supporting Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Palo Alto, CA
    BTW, ever played a Streamer SII? The necks are far smaller than most Warwicks, IME.
     
  9. No, I've never played a Streamer Stage II. Living in KC, there's not much opporunity to play high-end basses. I'm definitely a bit interested in the Stage II though. Any idea how much those normally run for? I can always use more basses to add to my list. Right now it's between
    1.) Sadowsky 24 fret 5
    2.) Zon Sonus Custom 6 (or Sonus Special)
    3.) Spector NS6XL

    I definitely understand what you mean by the funk being more in the player, but I'm interested in seeing if some basses just lend themselves to the style. Right now, the basses I'm looking into are all based on the ability to cut through. I'm interested in heavier music and funk, so cutting is important.
     
  10. EString

    EString

    Nov 20, 2000
    Los Altos, CA
    With no price restrictions, why don't you go to the folks at the Fender Custom Shop. They'll make whatever you want.
     
  11. Well, I'm sure I could get something just as good as a custom Fender without that high of a price. I lifted the price restriction mainly to stir interesting discussion.
     
  12. I know you said you were looking into Sadowsky, but I gotta say that I continue to be impressed with the funk sound I get from my sadowsky Vintage 5. Those single coils... yum!

    Jeff
     
  13. Scott Cutrer

    Scott Cutrer Guest

    Aug 21, 2000
    Richmond, VA
    Modulus! I use a Modulus Q6 in the US Army Band. I use a Q5 and we do tons of Funky/Modern Jazz. I get a great old school slap tone and loads of bottom. I also use a Q6 for my personal(non-Army) gigs and it too is a funk machine. I had Stingray 5's and G&L's and they were great. I actually thought that my G&L L2000 was a better slapper than my Stingray. I did also finally get to try a G&L L2500and I was totally disappointed, no slapping tone at all. The Stingray 5 has a great sound but I understand about the Stingray not cutting through on some music styles. We have had this discussion over in the Dudepit too. It seems that for "some music" and to "some peoples ears" the EB Stingrays and Stingray 5's are EQ'd in a way that keeps them from cutting through in certain situations, mostly onstage in very loud bands. Anyway, since I have been using Modulus, I have had great funk tone and with the 35 inch scale, the tone is very articulate to me.
    Good luck Dave
     
  14. Jeff, do those single coils produce a lot of hum? All of my basses thus far have had double coils, so I've never had to deal with hum, and I don't know that I'm ready to start.

    Sadowsky really does interest me. About how long is his normal production time (from start to delivery)? i.e. How much time do I have to save up the cost of the bass - down payment? :)
     
  15. Intrepid

    Intrepid

    Oct 15, 2001
    A Rickenbackers have awesome slap tone...pair it up with a good 4x10 and tweeter and it sounds terrific
     
  16. I've always heard that Rickenbackers have one of the worst slap tones out there, not to mention tight spacing....

    So that's a new one on me.
     
  17. Intrepid

    Intrepid

    Oct 15, 2001
    Mine sounds grand on my 8 inch amp....maybe I just got eqed perfectly or something...And tight spacing? Spacing is much bigger then a jazz band. Are you guys like uncoordinated cuz I can slap on the tightest spacing as long as it is bigger then my knuckle
     
  18. well, I don't exactly claim to be good..... So you could say I'm uncoordinated. But hey we're all learning, right?
     
  19. Intrepid

    Intrepid

    Oct 15, 2001
    :) I just never found it hard to hit strings....I use to do it perpendicular to the strings when I had my Sting Ray....my Rick has a p/u cover on it and its hard to do it perpendicular and switched to parrel technique. I later found out thats very hard to slap this way...go figure...
     
  20. Well, it may be that with the advances in preamps and pick ups that you can get a great finger funk and slap sound from the same bass. But that may not be your best option. If you can afford it, a specialized tool will generally give better service than a swiss army knife.

    I usually associate those sounds with two completely different basses, with different pickup setups. Finger funk has a sound I associate with aggressive mids, but not overly bright (vintage jazz, ash body). Good slap seems to go with a scooped mid, bright sound with very defined bottom (the "modern" sound).

    If this is real question for you (and not just a pipe dream ;)), I suggest you contact the premier luthiers and discuss it with them. You may end up with a matched set of basses.