Got attacked by Bible Thumpers Today...

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  1. darkspec

    darkspec

    Jan 2, 2003
    Cleveland Ohio
    First off, let me say im not putting down anyones relegion or anything. I just want to know whats up with bible thumpers. I was at the hospital today with my pops. He was getting checked up on and such so I wait in the lobby. All of sudden 5 people come at me asking me how I am doing and such. Then they start handing me the usual Awake and Watchtowers...Then a bible. And I tell them im not interested, im Athesit (spelling?) by choice and have faith but no relegion. I explain to them that I do not believe in relegion. Then they tell me im going to hell. So I say ok, but they wont give up...A couple of them were teenagers and started saying that I need help in finding light because my life is on the wrong path. I ask how they figure that, and they start telling me that Im going to hell because I listen to ICP. Mind you im wearing my psychopathic Jersey at the time and my hatchetman bandana hanging down gangster style. My dad walks out and they tell him that they recomend I am sent to a relegious escape. He tells them its my life and to leave me alone. So they leave. I walk out to the car, and one of the teenagers comes up and starts saying that he hates people like me etc, etc, and yelling at me for turning them down. So I hit him in the face...he falls and starts saying that Im going to hell. I just want to know whats up with this bible thumper crap. I have my own beliefs and ways of life. Why cant people respect that..I dont go up to people that look relegious and tell them to be atheist. What makes people think they have the right to tell someone how to live? I want some other peoples opinion on this matter. Ive basically lost all respect for relegious outreach people now.
     
  2. Wow dude...I don't get why they do that either...but like those people that come door to door, I open it, they start talkin and I slam the door on their face then they knock again and I tell my bro just not to answer it and after about 10 minutes of sitting there knockin every minute or so, they leave and all is peaceful once again. But like my friend and I were downtown once and we were totally wasted and those damn bible thumpers come up to us and they give us fliers to go to some bible thing and they were like "now what are you going to do with those?" and i was like "whipe my ass with it?" so i literally whiped my ass with it and threw it at him (was so funny...) but then anyways, my friend tried to answer and just threw up all over one of the guys' shoes and they left totally pissed off and we sat there laughing, was quite a good night :D ~ Tyler
     
  3. Vince S.

    Vince S. Resident Former Bassist

    Jan 24, 2003
    I've only had a run-in with bible thumpers once. A guy came up to my friend and me, and asked us to go to a teen get-together in which there was food, games etc. We declined, and he didn't really care though he seemed annoyed.

    However, I do have a Catholic friend who is very religious, and when we were younger he used to try to force Catholicism on me, and told me "oh this is a sin" and "thats a sin" and kept convincing me to convert. He doesnt do that anymore though.
     
  4. Atleast he noticed his error ;)
     
  5. JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    In my last appartment, some old lady used to come to my door once in a while and wanted to "talk about god and the bible", I first made the mistake of discussing with her. The next times I politely declined and closed the door.
    I think she was from some new independent evangelic church (Freie ev. Kirchengemeinde), but I didn't really bothered to find out. I survived catholic school, that was enough for me :D
     
  6. Philbiker

    Philbiker Pat's the best!

    Dec 28, 2000
    Northern Virginia, USA
    And the vast majority of religious are the same way. However, there are some who seem hell bent (pun intended ha ha) on converting the world to their faith. As a Christian myself, I understand the need for ministry, but you have to be aware of the right way to do it. Making all Christians out to be complete a-holes is not the way. The best witness is someone who simply strives to live as Christ did.

    Question for Christians: Who would you say was a better witness for Jesus, Jerry Falwell or Mother Theresa?

    However, for the record, lots of athiests are very insistent about their religion (and it is a religion) and some are as bad as the bible thumpers you have seen.
    I post this quesion to you: What makes you think you have the right to tell them how to express themselves? :)
     
  7. Tsal

    Tsal

    Jan 28, 2000
    Finland
    Violence ain't that great, but sometimes people like this deserve their smack in the mouth. Well done. It's odd how aggressive this kind of people can get, considering they should be spreading the 'love of Jesus' and everything.

    I usually tell them "thanks for caring mate, but no thanks" though ;)
     
  8. Thats a good question (even though not directed to me) but my .02 on it is that most people who don't believe in the religion just tell them to go away and stop bothering them with it and don't try to make them non-religious or tell them how to express themselves, they simply dont want to hear it.
     
  9. i am a christian but i believe that releigon is a choice and not forced on someone.
     
  10. Your a thoughtful and nice one :D Good job!
     
  11. lumankicks

    lumankicks

    Jun 12, 2003
    Sorry to hear about your harrasment. You've gotta understand, some people hearts are in the right place, just not their heads. They saw it as they where really trying to help you - when all they where doing was annoying the crap out of you.

    I've got a friend who is studying to be a preacher. He's a good talker and everything, but he's not good at moderation. Everywhere he goes, he talks about God. I'm catholic, but I don't believe (nor have I ever believed) that I should shove my religion down anyone's throat. I understand that some people aren't catholic, some aren't even christian, so its wrong to go around and try and force others to be like me. He hasn't gotten that yet I don't think, but he'll learn it soon.

    Now if you want to learn about God and stuff, I'd be more than happy to explain. But going around and harrassing people about it is wrong.

    Like I said, there hearts are in the right place, just not there heads.

    LU-MAN!
     
  12. theydolph

    theydolph Guest

    Oct 26, 2002
    Man this whole thread is mind boggling to me. I am certainly empathetic to people who don't want to be harrassed by "bible thumpers" but come on, hitting some kid in the face because he said you were going to hell, wiping where the sun don't shine with a bible and throwing it back in someone's face. I understand how annoying these people can be but hitting someone or acting like a jerk certainly doesn't help the situation. People who go around trying to convert others to their religion feel they are doing something good and although I am certainly not immune to becoming annoyed I would never desecrate a book which is felt to them to be the true word of God or hit someone in the face because I didn't feel like listening to them any more. It's easy to judge other people and say they're wrong but it's much harder to look at yourself and say the same. Ultimatly I am much more offended by acts of violence and ignorance than someone proselytizing.
     
  13. Uh..it wasnt a bible ;) It was a flier

    edit: and we did this only after sitting there for 15 minutes telling them we dont care and to leave us alone (they just wouldnt give up!)
     
  14. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Portland, OR
    If yer gonna go to hell for anything, it's gonna be that; not for being an athiest.
     
  15. Brendan is right on that...but I think what we have all learned from this is that religous people can go way over the top just like those who hate listening.
     
  16. Matthew Bryson

    Matthew Bryson Guest

    Jul 30, 2001
    The above quote only encourages them. Don't tell them you're an athiest, it only adds fuel to their fire (and it's really none of their business what you do or don't believe - too much info) Just tell them firmly that you have your own religious beliefs and you are not interested in hearing about theirs. Leave it at that. Close your door if they are on your step, walk away if you are out in public - or just look away if you are in public but not leaving your spot. If they persist, just ignore them. There is no need to get rude or confrontational. They'll leave you alone.


    :eek: Wow, he was out of line - then again, so were you. Both of you, way out of line. just, wow!
     
  17. theydolph

    theydolph Guest

    Oct 26, 2002
    Man I guess I was way out of line then. Waiting fifteen minutes does give you the right to be completely ignorant and rude. My mistake.
     
  18. Its cool, my fault I forgot to mention it :D
     
  19. Yeah guys, I agree what you did is far worse than what they did. Punching the guy in the face? Please.



    My .02
     
  20. CS

    CS

    Dec 11, 1999
    UK
    Here we go...

    First up The Christain faith and all it's clones and variations is based on the fact that man was created by God with free will. Adam and Eve chose to eat the apple. They excercised free will and disobeyed God. Ok so thats the 'Fall' sorted in a nutshell.

    You dont have to believe, you are excercising your God given right. That should shut them up.

    Next up, it sounds to me like they are Jehovah's Witnesses. I can never tie down what they actually believe in. It seems to be a form of Christianity linked in to the number of doors they knock on or souls they save. They have to do it and something drives then to be so ...enthusiastic. They also know the bible inside out. And as stated they seem to be ok with some belief. So tell them that you believe in God and am very happy.

    Ok as someone partially dyslexic I'll sling some stones and state that it's Religion.

    Try not to label all Christian's as Bible Thumpers and all Moslem's as terrorist's.(I'm not saying you did they are examples) Cliches and generalisations are just plain wrong.

    Atheism is a belief system that requires just as much faith as any erm faith. It's also a non-prophet organisation (sorry).

    There are people from all faiths, non-faiths and backgrounds here. Try to respect that any religion or anti religion could upset people.

    Here's an insight into Christianity. Christians are often seen as arrogant. Part of it is an adherance to the beleif that Christianity is the only way. Jesus said I am the Way the Truth and the Life etc, there's no if that's all right with Mohammed Bhudda etc. However that doesnt give the right for any nominal Christian to berate people for rejecting it.

    The smack in the mouth was a rather unsubtle way of expressing your disagreement. Would I have done the same? Maybe and I am a Christian. Perfect? no Bible Thumper? no , believe in God? Yes to the point that I will defend my faith to the best of my ability whilst trying to respect evryone's right to excercise free will. Please respect mine.

    EDITED to avoid misunderstanding although it's bound to happen.
     
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