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Got problems with your fretting hand (strenght?)

Discussion in 'Technique [BG]' started by Thomas Kievit, Jul 28, 2012.

  1. Thomas Kievit

    Thomas Kievit Guest

    May 19, 2012
    Then this might be something for you :hyper:

    Ultimate Bass Exercises by Max Palermo


    This book covers more then 700 exercises that will help you increase the timing, strenght, flexibility, independence and knowledge of the neck.

    It's written in notation and TAB :p
  2. Thomas Kievit

    Thomas Kievit Guest

    May 19, 2012
    Here's a small example of how it looks on the inside

  3. eddododo

    eddododo Supporting Member

    Apr 7, 2010
    I am always wary of anything titled 'ultimate', but it looks like a good chop builder, esp @700 exercises
  4. vince a

    vince a

    Jun 13, 2006
    Modesto, CA
    Just "practice" w/o using your fretting hand's thumb! You'll get strength in that hand!
  5. eddododo

    eddododo Supporting Member

    Apr 7, 2010
    Nice try, but hardly ULTIMATE
  6. Thomas Kievit

    Thomas Kievit Guest

    May 19, 2012
    Or it will give you Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.. :rollno:
  7. PlungerModerno


    Apr 12, 2012

    IME (albeit fairly limited) the secret to good fretting is lots of practice - AND keeping the entire arm, shoulder to fingertip, fairly relaxed. Good setup with fairly low action help a lot... as well as lightish strings.

    There are some great exercises but so troubleshooting is needed as much as speed and accuracy exercises. Try sorting out a sharply bent tense wrist on a high action bass by doing fingering exercises for hours per day :bawl:

    The book can probably help a lot of players... but it's only that - a help, not a full solution.
  8. darkstorm


    Oct 13, 2009
    Id be more inclined to look at finger and wrist excercises for dexterity etc rather then doing 700 fret this music score things. Actual finger and wrist excercises developed for overall dexterity, injury prevention, etc. Those hadny little hand excercise balls as just one example of useful tools. And what Plunger said. The types of excerises peeps with arthritus etc might do could also be worth look for prevention.
  9. Jazzkuma


    Sep 12, 2008
    just get the piano hanon book, its the ultimate chop builder for pianists for years and there is no reason it shouldn't be for bass either, that book has every possible combination. People trying to reinvent the wheel but this stuff is out there.
  10. Tupac


    May 5, 2011
    Lol. How many great bassists actually do exercise their finger muscles like this? How many don't?

    Don't need em.
  11. Thomas Kievit

    Thomas Kievit Guest

    May 19, 2012
    Well it doesn't matter if there are ''great'' bassists that do these kind of things or not, but the point is that we are trying to make things a little bit easier here on TB for each other :) If these exercises can help somebody, it's good this book is there :)
  12. Fergie Fulton

    Fergie Fulton

    Nov 22, 2008
    Retrovibe Artist rota
    Books like this are great, but please get the idea of the book in perspective.

    The idea is you can try all the exercises then pick a few that target a weakness of issue you have....you do not need to play all the exercises.

    The use of the word, Ultimate, is a branding title to see it, not a definitive statement. Wording like this appear all the time.

    Those that do not do playing exercises will not see the point of any exercise. Exercises and warm ups are like insurance, it's something you pay for but hope you never have to use.
    I have done exercises and warm ups for all my music based career (approx 44 years) and never had any problems, but would things have been different if I did not?
    Well we will never know, and why would I want to take the risk when the solution is so easy it becomes a habit?
    Anyone that say "Don't use them" or "Don"t need them" really want to add the word "yet" in there, because you will and you will have to to keep a good range of motion in your hands and keep them healthy.
    The correct exercises counter the stress, wear and tear of playing. They also balance the hand use so it is not a repetitive one way action...that's repetitive as in Repetitive Strain Injury, which develops in any one way action.

    CTS does not come from playing bass, it comes from injury, disease, overuse, mis-use and old age....yes old age.
    Even if you done nothing with your hands, in later life you will develop CTS in some form.
    As for playing without the thumb on the back of the neck...that is one of the best bass playing exercises that does not overly promote CTS....and playing bass does overly promote CTS, (and RSI ) as does life, so do not sweat it just be aware of it.

    To some it is not new ideas, but for others it will be, and the fact it a new release means it gets publicity and promotion, so it puts such issues back under the spotlight and as far as I'm concerned that is its best function.:)
  13. jordak


    Apr 7, 2011
    Queens, NY
    24 combinations? How can they be so definitive? Pic somewhat related

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