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Great Players but No Spark

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by Dr. Cheese, Dec 29, 2017.

  1. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis

    Both Frederico and Yolanda Charles are great, but they don’t mesh so well here, IMO.
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2017
  2. Yup - it's not working. And why do so many bass jams get called "funky" when they clearly aren't? No funk in this clip at all.... sometimes great players together...aren't so great (and I love me some Yolanda normally)
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  3. 40Hz

    40Hz Supporting Member

    Yikes!!! No musical dialog between those two whatsoever.

    But hardly surprising in some respects. I’m usually disappointed with those Master’s gatherings and summits.

    The more extraordinary the player the more unique the sound most times. For every Michael League, who seems to be able to mesh with anybody and anything, there’s a small army that sound best when they’re either with their own band or by themselves up on the stage.

    Of course even Mike League can meet his match sometimes when he’s on but the people he’s playing with don’t quite cut it. (Advisory: this one gets painful after awhile. Viewer discretion is advised.)

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  4. In this type of context, I could only imagine me getting excited if it were Billy Sheehan & Geddy Lee.
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  5. Lesfunk

    Lesfunk Supporting Member

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  6. blue4


    Feb 3, 2013
    St. Louis area
    I think even a master would have trouble pulling a jam out of their rear on the spot at a sales convention with tags still hanging on the basses. That's a tough spot. I think in that situation they are more trying to showcase the basses themselves, instead being concerned about a performance.
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  7. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    99.99999999999999% of YouTube?

    Buncha wankery sitting on the bed.
  8. Whousedtoplay


    May 18, 2013
    It's NAMM(!) like some office job.
  9. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
    I am no fan of more than 1 Bassist...those Bass Day jams, IMO, are painful.
    That said, here's a song I have forever loved-
    *3 Bassists*
    Alphonso Johnson plays the groove.
    Louis Johnson & Stanley Clarke trade 4s during the Solo section.
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  10. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    Honestly, as good as Yolanda is, she doesn't have the facility to jam on a virtuoso level. I thought it seemed awkward as Frederico started to stretch out, she couldn't really keep up. But hey, it was impromptu and you can't really prepare for spots like that. Definitely zero spark.
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  11. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    Agreed. The solo bass thing (or bass led records) is no longer interesting to me. I hate soloing to be honest.
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  12. bassbully

    bassbully Endorsed by The PHALEX CORN BASS..mmm...corn!

    Sep 7, 2006
    Blimp City USA
    I agree just give me a good groovin and bottom heavy band or jam anyday. I will always stand by my opinion that the bass is not a lead instrument.
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  13. bass12

    bass12 Say "Ahhh"... Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2008
    Montreal, Canada
    Isn't looking for great musical moments at NAMM kind of like looking for good food in a food court? And yeah, bass jams are, to me, only a few rungs up the ladder from bagpipe jams.
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  14. Snaxster


    Nov 29, 2008

    To wit:

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  15. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
    I hear ye. Back in my Fusion daze...I rarely bought bass-led albums. Stanley's 1st 4 & Jaco's 1st 3...anything else was acoustic players (a bunch of Mingus & Ron Carter albums).
    Will add: John Patitucci's debut was an excellent bass-led album that did not sound like a bass-led album.
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  16. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    That really sounds personal.:eek:
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  17. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I agree I love me some Yolanda, but her gift is the groove, not the solo.
  18. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I thought it was ok. Michael League plays with authority, but almost no ego. He is not the kind of musician who will show up a weaker player.
  19. Ant Illington

    Ant Illington I'm Anthony but I'm only illin' Banned

    Looks like you received confirmation of your assessment so I'll just trust you all on this video. Now, can you post each YouTube bass video that sucks? However, it might be a more fruitful (and shorter) project if you just post the ones worth watching. We trust your judgment. Thanks in advance.
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  20. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I have a whole channel worth of mediocre videos that you are welcome to dissect.
    Two musicians not connecting does not mean that they aren’t great at what they do. NAMM presents a lot of “blind date” situations, and blind dates have been known to go off the rails.

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