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gt-6b as preamp, tube poweramp?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Scott Lynch, Dec 4, 2005.


  1. Scott Lynch

    Scott Lynch Supporting Member

    Has anyone tried this combination? For versatilitiy's sake, now that I am in an original music project I have again become interested in developing a unique sound.
    My main question regarding this pre/power setup is: will the power tubes, if they are the right type of tubes and if they are driven appropriately, give me a good tube overdrive, or will the solid state electronics in the gt-6b ruin it for me?
     
  2. The 0x

    The 0x

    Aug 24, 2003
    Timonium, MD
    I had a Music Man HD-130, which was solid state preamp, tube driver & tube poweramp. It didn't sound much like a tube amp driven. It was fat & clean, but when driven, had that unmistakable harsh farty clipping transistor sound. I dunno how well the Boss emulates tube overdrive, but as long as the power amp has preamp tubes for phase inversion/driving, it should get fairly close.
     
  3. Plain Old Me

    Plain Old Me

    Dec 14, 2004
    I actually tried this in a shop. I paired my -6B with an Aggie 400 watt tube poweramp. It sounded good, but nothing compared to with a Demeter or Aggie pre. Personally, I think that most of the modeling on any FX unit is a load of ****.
     
  4. Scott Lynch

    Scott Lynch Supporting Member

    thanx for the replies guys, i needed some insight on this. I feel like the only difference besides the use of modeling techology is that all of the controls would be placed before both the preamp and poweramp tubes. Would there be way to stick the gt-6b inbetween the preamp and poweramp tubes on a given poweramp??
     
  5. Plain Old Me

    Plain Old Me

    Dec 14, 2004
    Simply put, no.
     
  6. seamonkey

    seamonkey

    Aug 6, 2004
    Are you looking for a unique sound that sounds like everybody else? Or you out to really develop a new unique sound?
    Go try different amps.

    Think outside the box. You find SS is more versatile than tube
     
  7. Plain Old Me

    Plain Old Me

    Dec 14, 2004
    That really depends on what amp you use. A Fender Pro 300 (300 watts all tube) is more versitle than a Kustom Groovebass (1200 watts, SS), and both are more versitle than an Ampeg -CL. The GT-6B paired with a tube power amp would be very versitle, but you could get even more variation by putting it in front of a head or preamp.
     
  8. Scott Lynch

    Scott Lynch Supporting Member

    My other concern on top of versatility is tone. From what I've read it seems like having an all tube head with an effects loop would be the best idea, such as the Fender bassman 300 that Plain Old Me mentioned. What is the chance that running the gt-6b into a preamp and poweramp and not just a poweramp will improve upon the ease at which i can dial up a good sound? If I recall the bassman has a bass and treble and graphic eq, which should allo me to do some basic tone shaping at the at the amp but leave the detail and mid range parameters to be adjusted with the boss parametric eq.
     
  9. Plain Old Me

    Plain Old Me

    Dec 14, 2004
    I use my -6B with a Mesa 400+, and I used to use the FX loop. I now run it in front of the preamp, because it makes it track better AND adds extra warm tone onto it; the -6B can suck out tone on some of the settings. An added bonus on the 400+ is that I can go into both inputs (with the -6B's stereo out) and blend em. Having a good preamp before the power amp fattens up the sound quite a bit, and yes it is easier to dial in a good tone because, when using some FX, the tonal characteristics are changed quite a bit; the preamp helps level out these changes.