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Guitar 412s on Bass?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Jmann, Jul 3, 2003.

  1. Jul 3, 2003 #1
    Jmann

    Jmann

    Apr 29, 2003
    Lexington, Ky
    I have been thinking about getting an avatar 412 guitar cab & using it with an old Kustom truck & roll 215 & Hartke 2000. Is it possible for this have a good tone/work without blowing something & being a waste of money? Help me please
     
  2. Jul 3, 2003 #2
    neptoon

    neptoon

    Jul 25, 2000
    Kings Bay, GA
    well, mr. don john turner uses hartke 4x12 guitar cabs in his rig. you might want to think about using a crossover so you don't send frequencies that are way too low for the cab to handle, depending on the freq. response of the cab.
     
  3. Jul 3, 2003 #3
    Lockout

    Lockout

    Dec 24, 2002
    Illinois
    Why not get an Avatar 410 bass cab instead? Not a huge difference in price, and you wouldn't have to worry so much about possibly blowing anything.
     
  4. Jul 4, 2003 #4
    Eric Moesle

    Eric Moesle

    Sep 21, 2001
    Columbus OH
    Most guitar cabs are sized and tuned for a different frequency range. While its possible to get one that sounds acceptable for your situation, it would be rare.

    Seeing how cheaply you can get a quality bass cab these days, I think it'd be pretty silly to buy a guitar cab and use it for bass. If you already have a guitar cab, by all means try it, but don't plop down money on one when you can get a good bass cab for the same money.
     
  5. Jul 4, 2003 #5
    ESP-LTD

    ESP-LTD

    Sep 9, 2001
    Idaho
    There are some folks using guitar equipment for the high end of a biamp or triamp rig.

    If you feed a guitar 4x12 a full range bass signal it will probably distort badly, and likely damage it.
     
  6. Jul 4, 2003 #6
    john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    i roll my 4x12's off at ~150 hz and i haven't had any problem. i cross them over with a pa sub, sounds great.

    the tone of the 4x12 is very different than any 10's i've ever heard - more interesting mids imo. coupled with the aluminum cones of the 4x12" cabs that i use, they really sound unique and cool, imo.
     
  7. Jul 5, 2003 #7
    GreyBeard

    GreyBeard

    Sep 5, 2002
    BARRACKVILLE WV
    Guitar cabs tend to not work too well in the frequency range a bass operates at.
     
  8. Jul 5, 2003 #8
    tripwamsley

    tripwamsley

    Jan 31, 2002
    Sulphur La,
    They won't operate in the same freq. range. That's right. Combine with a "normal" bass cab like an SVT or something and it can blast. I used to run guitar cabs with guitar heads and bass cabs with bass heads at the same time. It was great! I will do it again someday. Here's the thing: Gear and art are about the idea and the execution of the idea. There will be one of two outcomes. Success or failure. Neither is final and usually not fatal. Have fun. Playing bass with a pick through a Marshall 50 and 412 is quite fun. Great to record with, I think. Go for it man!:)
     
  9. Jul 6, 2003 #9
    Jmann

    Jmann

    Apr 29, 2003
    Lexington, Ky
    I like the tone of 412s better than I like the tone of 410s... I was going to biamp the 412s with the 215so it should work.
     
  10. Jul 6, 2003 #10
    john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    i'll say it again. used in their proper frequency range, a 4x12 guitar cab will give a tonal character and sound that you won't find in a 4x10".

    i wouldn't trade mine for any bass cabs, and i can afford to get any i want.
     
  11. Jul 6, 2003 #11
    XxBassmanxX

    XxBassmanxX

    Nov 21, 2001
    Rosman NC
    Ive always preffered 12s to tens, but most bass cabs with 12s dont have good highs. A guitar cab would be a great solution. I think i may try it as well. 12s have just the right ammount of thump to go with that clang! I guess it varies with different brands and stuff, but I have never disliked any 2x12 or 4x12 bass cab.

    Joe