This addresses my greatest pet peeve ... I have just been replaced in a start-up cover band due to a text-a-thon (all hands on deck) concerning "the key of a song" ... The guitarist opens with naming the key for various "new" tunes ... "Ain't talkin' Bout Love is in A; EvenFlow is in D" "I think they are tuned down on the recording" I chime in, "Ain't Talkin' ... is in Ab" Guitarist: "But he tunes down a half step and plays it in A" Me: "the key is the frequency > cycles per second - how someone tunes their instrument is immaterial to 'the tune' - Ain't Talkin' is in Ab" More rattling about other tunes & their keys from the singer & the drummer ("I'll tune my drums down") Guitarist: "... same with Ain't Talkin' - it's played in A, but tuned down a half step" Me: "It's in Ab ..." "The instruments are tuned down so that the open string rings as Ab" Guitarist: "Yes sir, that be it" "That's why we play it in A Standard" Guitarist: "Is it easier for you if I tune down a half step? Doesn't matter to me" Me: "So that's the point ..." "Transposing the song means that the singer (who's already asked "isn't it in E?") can't reference the recording" Then ... Guitarist: "Only if you tune down to learn it" (I play a fiver - I don't tune down) "Otherwise I would need 4 guitars to switch to" It devolved from there ... I don't care what key a tune is played in (singers rule), but I DO care about how an outfit refers to the nomenclature - assumptions like this "they tune down & play it in A" is inaccurate ... I extricated myself soon thereafter from the conversation > a few days later, I was replaced ... The usual "going in another direction" stuff ... I'm fairly polite, but in trying to be professional in communicating, I sometimes get in a fact-based dryness mode & folks get butt-hurt ... This outfit had been "together" for three (3) rehearsals only, and I'd been waylaid before by learning tunes according to "the recordings", only to be wandering through half-step minefields at rehearsals ... Any thoughts?