Gut string help!

Discussion in 'Strings [DB]' started by ERIC A, Jul 20, 2021.

  1. ERIC A

    ERIC A Supporting Member

    I know this question has probably been asked a million times ( I have probably have asked it myself in the past), but that doesn't stop me from asking it again :) I Live in the DC Baltimore area where humidity is insane and definitely affects my ability to keep my bass in tune. I would like to know if anybody out there has found a good alternative to gut. I have the feeling that i will always use a gut G-string, but the E, A and D strings...I'm wide open for suggestions.... just as an FYI, I'm playing mostly straight ahead and gypsy jazz. Thanks!!
     
  2. Earl

    Earl Supporting Member

    I have tried almost every alternative, especially since Covid as most of my playing is outside, but there is nothing (nothing!) like real gut, and I always return to it at least for the G and D (Superflexible solos on the E and A)
     
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  3. Did you try Evah slaps, Eric?
     
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  4. ERIC A

    ERIC A Supporting Member

    I have and they didn't have the "bounce" that guts have.....I definitely appreciate the suggestion.
     
  5. ERIC A

    ERIC A Supporting Member

    I know you're right....I was just hoping something new might have come along.
     
  6. Sam Dingle

    Sam Dingle Supporting Member

    Aug 16, 2011
    Nashville TN
    If there was a good sub we'd know by now. i think if you can find a nice EAD to deal with thats your best bet. Buddy of mine is into the eurosonics right now with the blue wraps, they have a nice oomph and bounce to them.
     
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  7. AGCurry

    AGCurry Supporting Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    St. Louis
    If the room in which your bass rests most of the time is climate-controlled, you shouldn't have a huge tuning problem. It takes some time for a humidity change to affect strings (temperature change has quicker effect).

    That said, the beneficial aspects of gut aren't as great with the E and A strings, and wrapped-gut strings are more prone to tuning issues. Most of us gutsters use steel strings for E and A.
     
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  8. These are the light gauge. according to this chart, on Gollihur's website:

    Silk Winding Color Codes:
    • Ultralight: yellow with red stripe at ball end, solid yellow with red band at headstock end
    • Light: yellow with aquamarine stripe at ball end, solid aquamarine at headstock end
    • Medium: yellow with black stripe at ball end, solid red with black band at headstock end
     
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  9. JBarz

    JBarz Trying to talk bass less and play bass more. Supporting Member Commercial User

    Mar 6, 2015
    It seems nicer, better finished (more expensive) gut in my experience seems to be less susceptible to the flux. (ie -Carlos Chorda v. 'Global Gut') ... also, maybe try nylon wrapped gut?
     
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  10. CaseyVancouver

    CaseyVancouver

    Nov 4, 2012
    Spiro solo E, A, D, tuned orchestral with gut G may be an option for you.
     
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  11. LouisF

    LouisF Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2003
    Los Angeles, CA
    I've been playing Goetz plain gut GDA with a Jargar forte ext E/C for the entire home/pandemic period. The studio is stable, the guts are stable even in the crazy LA weather we've been having. The bass sounds GREAT with those strings, but...

    Unless we go back into full lock down (a possibility here) a couple of the orchestras I'm involved with are starting up again next month and I am slowly freaking out about taking the gut-stringed bass into over/under air conditioned halls and practice rooms (I am not freaked out by using guts in a community orchestra section; I think they work very well bowed etc). When I had Eudoxas on the bass, the pitch problems outside the studio were insurmountable - no stabiltiy at all.

    I'll see how it goes the first couple of sessions, and then...? To be continued.

    (PS: I have down-tuned Spiro solos on the other bass -1880s German 5/8 - and may just use that one if it all goes bad)
     
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  12. AGCurry

    AGCurry Supporting Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    St. Louis
    I'd like to hear how it works. My concern with guts in the orchestra are more about the arco sound than about tuning issues, because my bowing isn't quite to the point where I can avoid rude noises.
     
  13. K. Powell

    K. Powell

    Nov 9, 2014
    Eric, you might want to check out the Gamut Red Diamond strings. I play similar styles of music and use their G & D mixed with Spiro med. A & E. They are nylon wrapped, good tension, stay in tune pretty well. The String Emporium sells single strings of that series which is where I got mine. The G is really sweet sounding to me. The D is good though not as good as the G. The prices are reasonable and the Gamut strings are red!
     
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  14. JeffKissell

    JeffKissell Supporting Member

    Nov 21, 2004
    Soquel, CA
    My personal experience is that plain (unwound) varnished D & G with steel or synthetic E & A are the most stable.
     
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  15. elmer

    elmer

    Oct 1, 2004
    Finland
    I enjoy the Innovation Super Silvers on my bass but maybe one should start the try out with Innovation Golden or Silver slaps for less tension...
     
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  16. LouisF

    LouisF Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2003
    Los Angeles, CA
    So far I've avoided most rude noises -- at least coming from my strings!
     
  17. ERIC A

    ERIC A Supporting Member

    Thanks! I have tried Silver Slaps. The tension (on my bass) is insanely loose.
     
  18. elmer

    elmer

    Oct 1, 2004
    Finland
    Then Super silvers are great if you liked the sound!
     
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