Half of Jazz Pick Up Not Working - (G & D String)

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by gigantor196652, Jun 5, 2020.

  1. gigantor196652

    gigantor196652

    Jan 21, 2007
    Noticed the other day the G and D string poles on my Jazz bass bridge pick up are not working. I have done some modifications to the bass and installed a push pull for series/parallel. Before I go digging inside for shorts in the wiring is this type of problem something that could happen outside of the pick up assembly or am I going to have to take apart the pick up to review?
     
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  2. Zooberwerx

    Zooberwerx Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2002
    Virginia Beach, VA
    You'd be better off posting this in "Pick-ups & Electronics. In the meantime, please don't disassemble the pickup.

    Riis
     
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  3. RSBBass

    RSBBass

    Jun 11, 2011
    NYC
    This is strange. Unlike a P bass pickup, a J bass pickup has the same magnet and and coil for all four strings. Unless something happened to the pole pieces, there isn't a way I know of for it to work on only two strings.
     
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  4. Zooberwerx

    Zooberwerx Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2002
    Virginia Beach, VA
    I'm thinking we may be dealing with a side-by-side humbucker jammed in a J shell...just a possibility.

    Riis
     
  5. gigantor196652

    gigantor196652

    Jan 21, 2007
    closing the loop on this because I cant stand coming back to old forum posts without answers.
    Called the manufacturer and they confirmed this was not something would realistically happen. they advised I open up the cavities and check for anything bad joints, Couldn't find anything that looked wrong but did take the time to re tape and wipe everything down, the J pick ups were the four wire type but the wiring diagrams called for two to be soldered and taped together.

    When I put it back together everything was fine.

    bad contact?
    bad tape?
    pinched wire?

    could have been any of the above but it works now.
     
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  6. jbrew73

    jbrew73

    Dec 24, 2006
    Tape has no place inside a bass.
     
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  7. What Jazz pickups have 4 wires?

    When two wires are soldered together In a 4-wire (2-coil) set, sounds like two coils wired in Series. If the connection between two soldered wires breaks, the whole pickup would be dead. What I believe happened is that the two soldered wires started to touch ground (bad tape) and cancelled out one coil - as if you did a split-coil in a standard hum bucker like a Music Man pickup.
     
  8. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
    alpha-music.com
    any number of stacks and especially split-coils like we're obviously dealing with here
     
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  9. Thank you for your amazing insight.
     
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  10. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
    alpha-music.com
    You’re welcome :)
     
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  11. micguy

    micguy

    May 17, 2011
    I think the only flaw in your logic is your uncertainty. You're absolutely right - from what's described, it has to be a split coil, wired in parallel, with one coil open, or wired in series, with one coil shorted.

    To make half a pickup fail by demagnetization would be very difficult to do - you could design a special demagnetizer that might pull it off, but in the real world, the "accidental" way that you might demagnetize alnico would be with heat. The issue with that theory is that your bass would be on fire long before the pole pieces would demagnetize. I'm strongly in favor of the wiring explanation.
     
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