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Has anyone ever tried "half out of phase" wiring?

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by LamarKafka, Apr 10, 2018.

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  1. Apr 10, 2018 #1
    LamarKafka

    LamarKafka

    Oct 25, 2015
    Edinburgh
    Has anybody here tried using "half out of phase" wiring on a bass? IIRC, it's when you have two pickups out of phase with a capacitor in series with one of them. I've seen it done on guitars (most notably Jerry Donahue's Telecasters) and it produces a less phase canceled middle position with more midrange. I don't have the tools or skills to try it out but it sounds like it could be an interesting alternative to series/parallel wiring on a Jazz Bass for a less scooped/quacky middle position (if I had to guess, it might sound a bit like the bridge position on a Ric 4003).
     
  2. Apr 10, 2018 #2
    Matt Liebenau

    Matt Liebenau

    Jul 7, 2013
    Ogden, Utah
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  3. Apr 10, 2018 #3
    postalflunkie

    postalflunkie

    Jun 12, 2013
    Westerville, Ohio
    I've always been intrigued with the out of phase sound since my first bass, a Peavey T-40. It's not an every day sound but used right sounds cool. Think Journey's Who's Crying Now.
    Now that I've tried the Half-out-of-phase I think its an option with more practical applications. Listen to my sound clip (my playing isn't the best) and see what you think. And, as a bonus you also get a different sound out of the applied pickup when it is soloed
     
  4. Apr 10, 2018 #4
    Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

    Jan 2, 2015
    14 Megameters from Groong Tehp
    The Rickenbacker series capacitor is just a filter that removes low freq (high pass filter).

    The 90 degree phase shift is done differently:

    jerry2.jpg
     
  5. Apr 10, 2018 #5
    postalflunkie

    postalflunkie

    Jun 12, 2013
    Westerville, Ohio
    That schematic only uses a cap in line with the phase switching, I also used a resistor which drops the pickups volume a little, allowing the unaffected pickup to have a little dominance in the overall sound.
    Tele3-WayHOoP HOoPPushPullSwitch.jpg
     
  6. Apr 11, 2018 #6
    okabass

    okabass

    Mar 19, 2005
    Finland,Lahti