http://www.givson.com/products3.htm They seem like a pretty good deal to me! I'd like a Swing bass since i play a lot of swing, along with more modern styles. Anyway it's pretty good that they're not unashamed of pointing out what musical styles they're suited for. Maybe an upright would be more suitable for swing though? Yeah, i heard Cremonas are among the best. I mean Cremona is where Stradivarius lived, so they got to have a lot of his spirit and quality in them right? Oh well anyway, i heard they're real collectors items. The old Givsons, like from the 50's. Maybe they spelt it differently back then? Hell, what difference could spelling make anyway. Givson... Yeah!!