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Has anyone tried the DiMarzio DP127 Pickup?

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by bholder, Sep 2, 2001.


  1. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire, but not an "endorsing artist".* (see sig)
    t's a P-style split pickup, where each half is a mini humbucker, goes for about $69.99 new.

    I'm thinking of reworking my old Peavey T40 with one in the next position and a Seymour Duncan stacked humbucker J-style in the bridge position. Thoughts? The factory pickups in it are these big wide aperature humbuckers, loud, but I don't like the tone all that much (though the DR highbeams I just put on helped greatly, but I really wanted the nickel sunbeams). Not that I'm sure I'll like these better, but it probably wouldn't be any worse, at least, and I like playing around with stuff like that.

    I could go active, too, of course, but I'm leaning towards keeping it passive, just for variety. On the active side, leaning towards barts, but that's more than I really want to go for just now.

    What I really want to to is keep the original setup on the original pickguard and make a new pickguard and controls for the new setup, and put a quick disconnect on
    the inside of the jack so that I can switch back and forth between the new and original setups just by loosening the strings. Anyone ever done that?

    Here's a picture of it:
    [​IMG]

    (This isn't meant as an plug for Musician's Friend, that just happens to be where I found the picture is all.)

    Though I'd take it in black, of course, white pickups are just too weird...
     
  2. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire, but not an "endorsing artist".* (see sig)
    :(

    ok, how do I get pictures to work here? I thought I knew how, but it's not coming out right.


    | Thanks, fixed now... :cool:
     
  3. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
    Location
    Ya' almost got it! :D Just leave out those double
    quotes by the ~.jpg at the end...

    [​IMG]
     
  4. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
    Location
    I've got a Split-P in my Yamaha RBX260F (fretless)
    and I love it! The output's pretty well up there -
    250mV according to the DiMarzio site. I don't know
    how that compares to other P replacements. Maybe
    the S/D ¼-Pounder is in the same league. The Bart
    P types are also blade style, but ONE blade per section.
    Can't speak to the output - no specs anywhere in their
    catalogs.

    I chose the Split-P because of those blade polepieces -
    no dropouts. It's sensitive as all get out - tapping,
    harmonics, etc., really shine through. I got the`260F
    explicitly for futzin'. Besides the Split-P, I got some
    beefier volume and tone controls, re-did the wiring -
    heavier gauge twisted pairs, and put on a Gotoh 201B
    bridge. With the Thomastik-Infeld flats I got on her
    it really sings, with just a hint of Steve Harris "clank".

    Does your bass look somethin' like this?...

    [​IMG]

    Dang! I dunno if that bridge is big enough (j/k!). If you
    haven't found a place to make a new pickguard, WD
    Music Products / pickguards.com DOES carry T-40 templates
    (click on the pic)...

    [​IMG]

    ...I'm sure you could work somethin' out with them
    for a P-J version. You could use machine screws,
    springs, and nuts to attach the P-J pups to the
    pickguard. That would give ya' the quick disconnect -
    drop-in thing. You can get those at Stew-Mac. Also,
    some inline spade type push-on/pull-off connectors
    for the ground wire to the bridge.

    J-type humbucker at the bridge? - good call! I'm gonna'
    get a (Yamaha) 270F as my next "project". In addition
    to a Split-P for that one, I'm going to replace the bridge J
    with a DiMarzio Ultra-Jazz. According to the D/M site, its
    output is the same as the Split-P (250mV). No worries
    about "mis-match". I'm guessin' the T-40's controls are vol-
    vol-tone-tone, and pickup switch (neck-both-bridge)?
    You might try modeling the wiring after a mono Rickenbacker...

    [​IMG]

    Since both pups are humbuckers, 500K (audio taper!)
    pots for the volume controls should work better. Maybe
    vary the cap values on the two tone controls for best results.


    Happy futzin! :)
     
  5. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire, but not an "endorsing artist".* (see sig)
    I don't know where those stoopid double quotes came from, wasn't in my original text input over at the harmony central board, but when I cut'n'pasted it over here, there they were. Hmmm.

    Thanks. Yup, looks a lot like that picture, but dark sunburst and black pickguard. Helluva bridge on these things, eh? ;)

    I think I will go ahead and get the DP127, though I don't know how it'll balance with the 1990 vintage Seymour Duncan 2BR stacked Jazz humbucker I just picked up cheap on eBay. I'm thinking I'll handle that by changing from vol/vol/tone/tone to vol/blend/tone/tone, and mayvbe even put in a 3way tone control if I can. I figure the blend is the best way to cover different outputs? Also would love to toy with phase and series/parallel. Found some very neat switches and wiring diagrams for them at stewmac.

    I also have an Ibanez BTB 6 that has the "sweepable Q" midrange control, which I am really starting to like, too bad they don't sell their components (I know, that's for active pickups, different stuff, but I like the idea, and I'm thinking of putting a preamp harness in anyway).

    Thanks for the pickguard link, if they can make one up for me, it'll save a lot of time and effort on my part, even if it costs a couple of bucks more than blank stock. I might just have them leave the switch and knob holes off, though, not sure what arrangement I want yet.

    Thanks for the wiring suggestions, too.

    Now, the really cool psycho thing to do would be to mount everything to the pickguards as you suggest, then replace all of the pickguard mounting screws (though leaving cutoff screwheads in the holes) with something more quick release, like a some recessed industrial strength velcro strips or something! A little overboard, there, perhaps! ;)

    So, know of anywhere I can get the DP127 at a better price?
     
  6. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire, but not an "endorsing artist".* (see sig)
    oh, yeah, another question - anyone have the standard rough outside dimensions of the P and J pickup styles? I want to check out whether I'll have much routing to do...
     
  7. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
    Location
    That M/F price is hard to beat. You could try a search
    on a meta-engine -- dogpile or google. Enter dimarzio+dp127,
    or somethin' like that.
    The Bartolini dimensional catalog's a good source -- click .

    Remember, a bridge J is slightly different than a neck J.
     
  8. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire, but not an "endorsing artist".* (see sig)
    Well, I'll see how it goes, I just ordered one.
     
  9. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire, but not an "endorsing artist".* (see sig)
    It arrived yesterday, sure looks nice, I still have to figure out how I'm going to mount it and get a new pickguard and all that. P-bass pickups normally mount to the pickguard with springs, correct?
     
  10. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire, but not an "endorsing artist".* (see sig)
    Duh, no, of course, P-bass pickups mount to the body. I must've been thinking of my old Musicmaster.