Has your opinion of JHS pedals changed?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by FullTime Tim, Sep 25, 2019.

  1. Over the last few months I've seen more and more people reference Josh Scott's JHS Show videos when talking about the use of pedals and effects. I don't know that I've seen more JHS pedals showing up on this forum, but then there have never been a lot of Boss, Wampler, Keely, JHS as we tend to skew more boutique around these parts.

    Once upon a time in the FX forum the mere mention of JHS was asking for a fight and there a lot of debate over Josh Scott and how evil he was or wasn't.

    I'm not really looking to renew any old fights or get in trouble for siring things up, but I feel there really does seem to be a different opinion about JHS these days, now that Josh Scott is doing these videos and showing he really knows his stuff about the history of effects and circuits and that he is pretty generous with using his huge channel reach to promote a lot of great pedal companies.

    So. What do you think of JHS these days?

    (Mods feel free to shut this thing down if I just stoked a flame war or I guess this could be in the off topic forum, but really this is on the topic of effects that we all love)
     
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  2. BrentSimons

    BrentSimons Supporting Member

    Mar 4, 2004
    Vergennes,VT USA
    I actually didn't follow the fights but I really enjoy his YouTube videos? :) I don't even play guitar and I find the videos interesting. :) He seems like a nice fellow. I've even thought of picking up a Pulp N' Peel compressor or Mufaletta at some point.
    Best wishes,
    Brent
     
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  3. Nope.
     
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  4. Grapevine921

    Grapevine921 Supporting Member

    Feb 8, 2011
    Lafayette, Indiana
    I didn't used to like the aesthetic of JHS pedals and didn't try any of their stuff until this year. I can now say I'm a huge fan of their vibrato, and if I ever need a univibe JHS is at the top of my list.
     
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  5. I'm in your camp. Those videos are some of the best things about YouTube currently. I've only ever played bass, but love understanding where sounds come from and what makes different effects great. I just find it really interesting and entertaining beyond the demos that the gear world normally revolve around.

    I was skeptical of the hate that has existed for the brand, but think that the videos are showing he's not some hack that "steals" circuits, he's got a genuine love for the pedal (and music) industry and that shows and (I think) builds what he thinks people want to have or that he wants to have.
     
  6. BrentSimons

    BrentSimons Supporting Member

    Mar 4, 2004
    Vergennes,VT USA
    Well put! I agree.
    Brent
     
  7. alack

    alack

    Nov 20, 2000
    Florida
    I enjoy the videos. His support for other builders and companies says a lot about his character. I haven’t purchased any of his products but also can’t say I’ve given many a test drive.
     
  8. scubaduba

    scubaduba Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2003
    Michigan
    Every JHS pedal I’ve tried has been great. I like the Pulp ‘N Peel Compressor a lot. Pretty unique with drive control, tilt EQ, and DI out all in a small enclosure.
     
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  9. DDXdesign

    DDXdesign formerly 'jammadave' Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 15, 2003
    Vegas
    I know the arguments against JHS from just kind of seeing them in the periphery a few years back, though I've never really dug into the pedals themselves. QuadraPog is nice.

    Anyhow, I saw his booth at NAMM this winter and I have to say, his use of the icon of "tighty-whitey" underwear for his tiny white compressor pedal made me laugh out loud, and in person and on youtube he doesn't seem at all like the douche people had made him out to be.

    Maybe he mellowed out, maybe he's putting on an act, either way I don't have much of an issue with him myself. But I understand the sentiment based on the original arguments.
     
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  10. Or it shows he’s getting paid by BBE and Behringer to create demand where there isn’t any.
     
  11. 40Hz

    40Hz Supporting Member

    May 24, 2006
    home
    Ok. Any actual reason for that conjecture?

    Or just idle speculation on your part?
     
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  12. The videos are pretty well put together, although I enjoy the Earthquaker 'Show us Your Junk' series much more (even with the transparent advertising).
     
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  13. MultiScaleMale

    MultiScaleMale Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    Maryland
    I would buy JHS pedals, and have in the past. Yes, they copy designs, but that's kinda common in the pedal building world. They were just smart enough to have the marketing skills to turn it into a business instead of a hobby.
     
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  14. I don’t have any beef. I can’t say I’ve tried his pedals. But I haven’t tried a G&L bass either. I have nothing against either brand. Just isn’t anywhere around here to try them. I do like his show. I like his enthusiasm for pedals. He promotes pedals in general not just his own brand. I think that’s not only very likable but it’s a good way to learn about pedal history and pedals that might have been overlooked when they came out that now with newer trends could be more useful now. His art explanations are pretty funny also. Like having a compressor with tighty whiteys that he explains as “well if tightens things up and keeps them in place” lol
     
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  15. cosmicevan

    cosmicevan ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Inactive

    I absolutely love the jhs channel and as others have mentioned, there is so much there. I am not too familiar w the hate but these days it diesnt take much to piss people off.

    I checked out his lineup at the brooklyn stomp box exhibit and have been GASing for a bonsai ever since. I dont own any of his work but have tremendous respect for his knowledge, the fact that he shares it, and collaborates on other channels and seems to be a part of the general builder community. The episode of that pedal show thats a history on distortion is pretty fantastic.
     
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  16. MultiScaleMale

    MultiScaleMale Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    Maryland
    Most people with YouTube channels that have decent subscribers and viewers get paid to show products. Pay $1000 and have 50,000 people watch a 10-15 minute video about your product? That's cheap at 20 cents per view.
     
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  17. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Inactive

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Never had a problem with him and still don't.

    I have a JHS Mod Bass SoulFood and love it. The changes he made "fix" that pedal.
     
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  18. DeltaPhoenix

    DeltaPhoenix Supporting Member

    Apr 6, 2011
    Gainesville,FL
    In the fuzz world, JHS has done some dirty stuff. So, for those that don’t know...

    It is one thing to clone older circuits and quite another to clone circuits from newer pedals still in production (like when Spencer ripped off Darkglass).
    JHS took Devi Ever’s Hyperion circuit, and made not one single change or improvement (there are actually mistakes in the way she designed the circuit) and called it the Astro Mess. It’s marketing said he designed it specifically for the band Seitchfoot and they were endorsing the pedal. When it was discovered that JHS had ripped off Devi and duped Switchfoot he didn’t apologize and in fact,Josh tried to convince retailers to drop Devi.

    There are other examples of Josh using DIY circuits that the designers released for the DIY community via Creative Commons or something - in fact he has actually used a Madbean PCB in his own pedal and called it original.

    Here is an older list of pedals JHS has called their own but in fact are other’s designs:
    Angry Charlie - MI Audio Crunch Box
    Astro Mess - Devi Ever Hyperion
    Bunrunner - Devi Ever Hyperion / Tone Bender
    Charlie Brown - BSIAB diy circuit from general guitar gadgets
    Mini Foot - Bazz Fuss diy circuit
    Mr. Magic - Zvex Super Hard On
    4 Wheeler Bass Fuzz - Zvex Wooly Mammoth

    I have no respect for that guy/company.
     
  19. Low Down Brown

    Low Down Brown

    Jan 8, 2018
    Erf
    A long while back when I was looking up info on the Colour Box and Pulp n' Peel V4, I saw a few posts in various threads that eluded to either quirky personality issues or questionable business practices...something along those lines. I never really followed up on any of that though. Instead, I bought the Pulp n' Peel and it was a great compressor. I also enjoy some of the JHS vids on Yatube.
     
  20. He's building a brand and making a greater name for himself than he did before. There's certainly nothing wrong with that. But there's no reason for him to shill for other companies on a pro bono basis. I happen to like some of the things he's done, like the history of op-amp distortion. But a few of them, like the ones mentioned, raise an eyebrow.

    OTOH, there's no reason for Josh to care one bit what I think. His sales should be through the roof and he sold out of his recent handmade run of pedals in minutes. Just because I don't like some of it means nothing.
     
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