Have a week to buy a Pre-amp

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by IngloriousOz, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. IngloriousOz

    IngloriousOz Supporting Member

    Jun 1, 2006
    SLC, Utah
    I've got a week to get this up and running before tour (previous setup met unfortunate death) and need some ideas.

    Here's what i've got so far-

    Cab-Basson 810
    Power amp-Crown XTI-2000

    I'm hoping to get my hands on an SVP-CL but doesn't likely within the time frame. The original setup was SVT-CL+Ampeg SVT810e/Peavey Mark III+Ampeg 2x15...i'd like to keep that SVT tone but don't really trust going with the other SVP-Pro preamp. Got about $500 to work with.....

    Suggestions??? Thanks!
  2. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    I'd say get a Tech21 VT bass pedal and a nice DI box. The VT can drive a power amp, and it's got the SVT tone in spades.
  3. musicelectronix


    Jul 8, 2007
    Hüstın, TX
    Lead Designer, Zeibek Boutique Pedals
    I thought I would never see you endorse a Tech21 product :)

    While it is not likely to get SVT tone from any preamp (including SVP-CL. I have one), I would suggest checking out SWR. I especially like the IOD, because I was able to get a slight tube break-up sound while I had it. I also would suggest checking out Aguilar DB 659, which I like very much. What I am trying to say is that you should be able to find one of the discontinued good-old preamps (including SVP-CL) in your time frame.

    Some people swear on Tech21 rackmount stuff, but I didn't find them to be "my thing"; whatever that means to you. I haven't tried the VT pedal and I am not interested in doing so.

    Other than that, one of the mods opened a preamp comparison thread a while back. It's definitely worth checking out and I remember him liking BBE TMax. Other people would chime in on this. And of course there is the http://basstasters.com/
  4. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    Me either... this is the first one that IMO does what it claims to in a satisfactory way. A bit noisy though.
  5. IngloriousOz

    IngloriousOz Supporting Member

    Jun 1, 2006
    SLC, Utah
    Dammit this is the best website ever! Thank you folks!!

    Where would be the best place to start seeking out a SVP-CL to find within a week? I've called every shop in my state and no TB'ers have one up to offload...

    any experience with the Ashdown RPM-1?

    Thanks again!
  6. SanDiegoHarry

    SanDiegoHarry Inactive Supporting Member

    Aug 11, 2008
    San Diego, CA
    Were it me... I'd stick with what you know - an older Ampeg preamp would fit the bill... I had one for years, liked the tone but hated the noise... but still, it sounded dandy...

  7. Kyon`


    Aug 17, 2007
    Boston, MA
    I don't know I actually liked the sansamp rpm I have much more then the rbi. It does comp a pretty good SVT tone, but what I like more is that it has this nice sort of chainsaw grit.
  8. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    The VT is only noisy when you crank the drive hard. I think it's very quiet on more normal settings, and it's no noisier than an SVT being cranked into the red. If you want true SVT sound in a small box, it will definitely do it.

    I never tried to run it as a preamp, but it will work as a preamp, though you'd still have to get a DI if you're not micing. If I had a power amp rig, I could be tempted to using only it. I have some vintage Ampeg stuff but I still use the VT with it, and I use it a lot by itself when I record.
  9. sk8


    May 10, 2007
    United Kingdom
    another vote for the VT Bass
  10. Sten


    Nov 18, 2001
    Try the Tech21 RBI if you can. I've done A/B comparision with SVP-Pro preamp and it was a very one-sided battle. I ended up selling the SVP-Pro and buying Bassdriver DI programmable (RBI on stompbox format basically). It is not for everyone, but worth considering for you.
  11. CrUiSeR


    Jul 13, 2005
    If you can't get the ampeg in time, my "Suggestions" are
    first:the Fender pre, followed by one of the Alembic preamps.
  12. JGR

    JGR The "G" is for Gustav Commercial User

    Jun 29, 2006
    President, CEO, CFO, CIO, Chief Engineer, Technician, Janitor - Reiner Amplification
    Tech 21 RPM hands down. Still may favorite preamp and I've owned a few (Ashdown RPM, Ampeg SVP-CL, SWR IOD, Aguilar DB659, Tech 21 RBI).
  13. rbonner


    Sep 25, 2008
    With the SVP-CL you will have to make sure it has the high output mod done. I also think I'd carry two. The VT pedal, you could probably get two shipped this week.

  14. TL5


    Jun 27, 2005
    fwiw, I use a Yamaha poweramp/cabinet stack with the VT Bass as my tone shaper.

    As mentioned previously, it will drive the poweramp and function as the preamp. IMHO, it doesn't do this well because I have to turn the level on the VT bass to full. Even then the signal seems a bit anemic to me.

    I bought an inexpensive microphone preamp. Like this:
    It sits on top of my poweramp.

    This allows the VT bass to stay at a unity level (where on/off the bass level through the device is the same). I use the mic pre to raise the level to line level for the poweramp.
    This works really well for me.

    Again, the VT can do it alone, but unity is lost as you must run the level at full volume.

    [edit to add] Someone mentioned the ART Tube MP earlier. I used to use one of those instead of the M-Audio. It worked fine, until I started having issues with the tube becoming unseated on a regular basis.
  15. IngloriousOz

    IngloriousOz Supporting Member

    Jun 1, 2006
    SLC, Utah
    little more info on the mod please? Thanks again everyone! Has anyone ever used this complete setup before by chance??

  16. rbonner


    Sep 25, 2008
    You need to change the gain on the output stage. Jerrold has the info, I dont as I dont have the unit.

    I meant to type SVP-CL as in preamp.....

  17. Pitbull Growl

    Pitbull Growl

    Jan 6, 2009
  18. IngloriousOz

    IngloriousOz Supporting Member

    Jun 1, 2006
    SLC, Utah
    Alright folks, got myself a SVP-CL. Wish me luck with this rig!

    Also if any current/past owners of this Pre have any advice for me (aside from changing out the stock pre-tubes immediately) please let me know!