Head for BEAD?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by SpanishHarlem, Dec 5, 2005.

  1. SpanishHarlem


    Nov 29, 2005
    After too long of a hiatus, I'm getting back into playing bass.

    Right now, it's just a Squire P, but it's soon to be modded with an aluminum neck, Gotoh 206 string thru, and either Duncan 1/4lbs or Dimarzio Split P. I'm seriously leaning towards stringing it in BEAD.

    The aluminum neck should take care of any tension problems, and I've got a 15" Musicman cab that should be fine for now. So I need a head.

    Things I'm considering-
    Behringer 3000 or 4500 head.
    Ashdown 300
    an old traynor, bassman, or V4 (if I can find one on the cheap)

    Is there anything special I need to consider when head shopping? Any brands or models that are notorious for not being able to handle the low B? Any particular amps I should add to my list?

  2. Whats the price range and what sound are you after and what do you play?
  3. chaosMK


    May 26, 2005
    Albuquerque, NM
    Too much hip thrust
    Ashdown MAG should be fine. I used one with two 1x15's for a while and a 1x15/2x10 too, and never had any problems. I use low B all the time in the types of music I play, but I dont boost the low bass as much as I once did. For the long run you might want something more powerful, but Ashdown makes quality stuff.
  4. SpanishHarlem


    Nov 29, 2005
    Price range is 'cheaper the better', more or less. $400 tops, maybe a little more if I wait til after the new year.

    I don't really have a particular sound in mind. My background is jazz, but I'm into more aggressive and varied sounds these days. LOW, swans, nina simone, radiohead, james brown, Khanate.

    Warmth is always a good thing, and if necessary, I can get most of my dirt sounds from my pedals. If I end up with a solid state amp, I'm probably going to buy or build some sort of tube pre/dirt box.
  5. FireBug


    Sep 18, 2005
    Well, you might want to wait for the after-holidays sales.
    But as far as value/quality goes I would say go for an old Traynor. In fact, I saw one in the TB classifieds not toolong ago. I'll see if I can find it for you.
  6. SpanishHarlem


    Nov 29, 2005
    I've read good things about the Ashdown stuff. I need to find someplace here in town where I can give it a sitdown.

    300W should be enough for my needs... mainly playing at home. If I ever got into a serious band again, I'd make the investment into something stage ready. 300W should get through a rehersal, if I was in that situation, right?

    Also, does the MAG series include a footswitch? (like the behringer stuff...)
  7. SpanishHarlem


    Nov 29, 2005
    Waiting is probably the smart move. I'm not in any real hurry, but for now i'm playing through a 15W tube amp into the 15" cab - it works, but it's getting old quick.

    Then again, my wife still doesn't know what she's getting me for the holidays - the right amp could be a solution...

    I think I saw that Traynor as well... $400, I think. Shipping would be a bear.
  8. I own a Mag300 head and Ashdown Mag410 cab for gigs, and an Ashdown EB 12-180 combo for rehearsals, and small gigs.

    They're great!

    Played a small restaraunt gig last week (around 100 people) with the Electric Blue 12" 180w combo, and it had bucketloads of headroom. Didn't turn it up past 10 o'clock :D

    I only play a four string tuned EADG, so can't comment on the low B, but other than that I can highly recommend the Ashdown gear ;)
  9. FireBug


    Sep 18, 2005
  10. SpanishHarlem


    Nov 29, 2005
    That Traynor is definitely on my list.

    I'm waiting on a big payment from a client, so if the Traynor is available once I get paid/after the new year, I'm might to try and snatch it up...

    But back to the original question - is there anything anything special I need from a head to be able to accommodate BEAD? From the responses so far, I'm guess no...
  11. FireBug


    Sep 18, 2005
    I would say no, there's nothing specific you need for a low B. Just make sure the tubes are good and you have plenty of headroom. That Traynor should have enough headroom to push a B.
  12. SpanishHarlem


    Nov 29, 2005
    That's what I thought... Does the same hold true if I go SS?
  13. Kelly Lee

    Kelly Lee Yeah, I'm a guy! Supporting Member

    Feb 17, 2004
    Marana, AZ, USA
    The price on the Traynor is $400 shipped. Just thought that might help you save a little for it. :D
  14. SpanishHarlem


    Nov 29, 2005
    Well, I just sent the guy an email... We'll see what happens.
  15. the behringer and the V4 are in completely different ball parks...
    I don't think they should even be in the same list.
  16. Too true

    Peavey head and cab setups can be had pretty cheap second hand and are pretty good, reliable as hell too, i think its the cab you get that matters more than the amp
  17. mohawk is right, regarding the B string issue. It's the cab's ability to handle it at loud volumes, not the amp's ability to push it...

    In most cases, the cab will distort/fart out before the amp does from pushing the low B (IMO)
  18. SpanishHarlem


    Nov 29, 2005
    I definitely agree that they are very different animals. I'm only considering the Behringer due to its price and availability - the V4, I've owned in the past, and other than the weight, I wouldn't mind another.

    For my limited needs, I think my 15" should be fine. Or am I wrong about that... As long as it works for now, I can handle have to upgrade if I get into a live situation again.
  19. I don't know how loud you'll be playing, but usually a 210 is a good companion to a 15 just to help get a bit more definition.

    The V4 is an awsome amp!
  20. Cant beat a 2x15 with a 4x10!

    I must be an odd case, but i find 10's seem to handle the low B better, always seems better defined with 10's to me, less or a rumble