Help-EMG DC & CS for Toby Pro 5

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by CountBassy, Feb 17, 2001.

  1. CountBassy


    Jan 20, 2001
    New Castle, DE
    I need some opinions, please. I want to upgrade my Toby Pro 5 string by replacing the crappy passive Mighty Mites with EMG soapbars. I'm not sure if I want all the hot output I'd get with 2 DCs, but I'm concerned that 2 EMG-CS pickups (with the steel bar in them) might warm the tone up too much.

    Has anyone ever put either of these EMGs in a Toby Pro? If so, did you also add an EMG BTS or BTC preamp?

    I guess I'm looking to split the difference in tone between the DC and CS pickups. Is there any reason why I can't use one of each? That might do the trick.

    Has anyone ever used both of these EMGs together, and if so, what were the results?

    Thanks for your help!
  2. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    I've never tried the CS pick-ups, but I have 2 basses w/that type of pick up.

    1-Spector NS-5 w/40 DC's & Spector/Haz-Lab 18volt pre-amp.

    2-Warmoth w/40 J's & a Aguilar OBP-1 pre-amp 18volt pre-amp.

    They both sound great. #1 is warmer much bassier. #2 is brighter w/alot of growl & attack. I would suggest you put the p/u's & pre-amp of #2. I love playing that bass & it soungs GREAT!!! EMG BTC & BTS are good but the Aguilar cost the same & sounds alot better. If you arent good w/putting electronisc in basses, go w/the EMG systems!!!

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  3. killer B

    killer B

    Apr 18, 2000
    Phoenix, AZ USA
    It's an interesting idea, using 1 of each. I've actually got the 35cs installed in an Ibanez Musician and like them alot. Warmer than most emg's but certainly not muddy and still very "modern" sounding might be a good choice for you. I've got some 35 DC's lying around some where and since they've got those quick connectors it wouldn't be that hard to try combinations. If I can get that bass back from a friend and dig up those pickups I might try that this weekend. I'll be sure to post my thoughts.
  4. philthygeezer


    May 22, 2002
    I have the EMG 35 DC on the bridge and 35 CS in neck position on my Spector NS2000 neck-thru. Playing it with one pup on at a time now, I can hear that the CS is warmer and richer than the DC which sounds more brittle and colder. It has a very clean and clear presence with a bit of richness to it. It will show every nuance of your playing, including string noise to a certain extent. This sometimes drives me nuts, but playing with the thing now I'm starting to think that the DC shows more glassyness. The CS is still clear but doesn't throw the mistakes and glisses out front the way the DC does.

    If you are looking for warm P-bass thump, this isn't it. It has a powerful clear and rich bass tone that is quite distinctive. More of a BOOM! than a WHUMP! I find myself taking a second look at the Spector all the time because I'm confused by its qualities. I'm not likely to sell it soon because it's an obviously high quality sound. I'm just not sure if I'm a HiFi sort of person yet.

    The EMG 35CS sounds much nicer than the DC IMHO, and I think you'll be impressed by the balls of the thing.

    I also think that two CS pickups wouldn't be too warm. Just richer and still very clear. This exercise has helped me to see some virtue in the combination that the previous owner chose though: Easy to get that relatively thin nasal sound with the DC at the bridge, and add warmth and power with the CS at the neck. I like warmth and power so I may have chosen 2 CS pickups. No problem mixing them though. Your tastes may vary.

    I have the 18volt BQC pre-amp.

    Hope this helps,

    EDIT: I just realized I replied to a VERY old thread. Oh well hope it helps someone else! :D
  5. EricTheEZ1


    Nov 23, 2004
    Clawson, MI
    Don't forget the EMG 35TW's. I've been pining for these for some time. I have a Schecter with 35J's, but would love to see what my bass could accomplish with the TW's.

    TW's are both a 35CS and 35J pickup in the same housing. Each pickup comes with a Push/Pull pot for switching between the 2. I love the tone of my 35J's, but the ability to still have one on J and the other on CS, plus blending, would really add some versatility.

  6. I have the Ibanez Doug Wimbish 5 String Bass with his own Custom Designed EMG Preamp.

    I showed up to practice with the bass and the singer went nuts over it. So perception is a good thing to consider when trying new pickups. What sounds correct to you could sound bad to someone standing away from you-or vice versa.

    I was suprized with this bass...Ive tried EMG J's in a spector and swore they sucked...with this bass,its different, I think Doug likes the punchiness of the Model J config,then relies on his eq to get a fat bass tone if needed. This(meaning EQ Choice) may be something to consider when making your selection.

    Im a rocker but always liked the bass tone on Whitney Houston's "You give good love".....the bass tone on that song has a very unique punchy tone yet has the fullness and roundness to back it up. It seems that these EMG 40 J's with the bridge pickup soloed can get that very distinctive Tone. Im still going to try the EMG 40 CS to see how much they differ in tone. I'll post again after Ive tried them.:bassist:
  7. kyral210


    Sep 14, 2007
    It depends greatly on the style of music you want.

    If you want to play the bass naturally, then the 40CS will be perfect.

    If you like your metal, then 40DC's will suit you perfectly.

    But what if like me you want to 'have your cake and eat it' too? Iove metal, but i want a full low and loud sound. I opted for a DC in the bridge and a P5 in the neck. That gives me the option of a metal style bridge, a P-Bass style neck, or when for 99% of the time, I put both on for a low, loud, grinding and full sound, its magic!

    As for BTS/ BTC, I had one before. I had EMG HZ's with the BTC and it was good, but not for me. The panning pot means that you can have 100% one, 50% of each, but never 100% of both. I love having both pickups on at the same time pumping full power out of my bass. As for the trebble and bass controlls, I dont miss them. If you choose your pickups and bass right, the tone should be right anyway.

    I hope this has cleared things up for you. My personal recomendation, DC in the bridge, P5 in the neck, and only use three pots (two volume and one tone).
  8. Maybe you should drop Barts in it.
  9. Modulrob


    Jan 8, 2003
    I don't think so. Barts have a lot of mid range bark, quite the opposite of what people desire from EMGs. I've liked many different models of barts least among many pickups I've owned, except for a quad coil MM bart that was in a Curbow...that thing kicked booty!
  10. BassBuzzRS

    BassBuzzRS Supporting Member

    Oct 18, 2005
    It's been said many times here and also people quote from EMG-persons; The DC is designed and made to be installed in the Music Man position. There it sounds good. Do yourself a favor and don't buy the DC unless it goes in that position.
  11. Modulrob


    Jan 8, 2003
    I actually had this detail in my original post, before editing it for brevity. The two *absolute best* sounding basses I've owned had a Lane Poor MM in one of them, and a EMG DC in roughly the P-Bass position on the other (positioned a tad lower than a P, but a tad higher than an MM)

    I wish peoples would include one more detail in their threads when sharing pickup opinions or asking questions. Where does your right hand make contact with the strings? My right hand fingers hit the strings at roughly the 19th fret. I go for that rubbery John Entwistle/Geezer sound (over 25 years of playing this way, fret clank is now near nil ;)). More "hi-fi" pickups help me to sound better with this technique, but I'd guess that many great players whose right hand is just above the bridge think the more "hi-fi" pickups are too bright. Just something else to consider when sorting through the many opinions,