Well, maybe not tonedeaf but pretty darn close. I'm the guy that is always singing the lyrics to your favorite songs way off key. Yes, that guy. I have been going through Pacman's Scale method and it has been working quite well with regards to learning the fretboard but when it comes to singing/humming the note I am just lost. I can get in the right area but hardly ever does the note I'm playing and the sound coming out of my mouth ever match. Trying to transcribe songs is a nightmare as well. If I am learning a phrase, I have to load it into my Transcribe! program, loop about 4 sec. and slow it way down. Then it is hunt and peck till I get the first notet. I usually wind up finding it and from there it is a lot easier to find the rest, but I feel that my ear is completely screwing me up. I know that there isn't any magical way of getting a perfect pitch or anything but does anyone have some good suggestions for getting my ear trained. I've tried learning a bunch of songs but it takes so long for me to figure out even a small bit, I get frustrated and go back to noodling around on my same ole' box patterns. Please help.