so, i'm still on the hunt for a bass that sill be better for my shoulder pain than what i've currently got... and there could be more. i REALLY miss playing standing up, i REALLY miss playing a long scale bass that isn't too heavy to manage. i played today for 35 minutes standing up playing my traveler TB-4P which weighs 6.2 pounds, but after 35 minutes, my shoulder hurt deep inside. but i wanted to play more, although i wasn't silly enough to do so... so the contenders: steinberger spirit XT-2. a much lighter 34" scale bass with no lower bout to speak of, so this would give me the long scale i crave (i love 34" scale - i sometimes feel constrained playing shorties) at a light weight and would be an improvement for a sitting bass on bad shoulder days. wouldn't be able to play it for long standing as it would weigh about the same as my mikros and my traveler. i've never owned one - seems like fun. traveler guitar ultra light bass. it IS ultra light. i owned one before, and it weighs about 3 and a half pounds - i kid you not. it wasn't comfy to play sitting down, but i would be able to play it standing up for hours. 30" scale isn't what i was looking for, but playing standing without pain isn't something i've been able to do for years. doesn't sound too good, and since it's a piezo, can't just plug in another pickup i know i like. the ibanez SH500. yes, we're back to that. it just sounds so wonderful, i came close to buying it on a whim. i can get one that's a little lighter than my traveler TB-4P, but it won't be a sitting bass due to shape. i played a couple on a strap and 25 minutes left me pain free. i can get one at just over 6 pounds, but somehow the strap was more comfortable than it is on the TB-4P - don't know why. and then there are hofners. at around 5 pounds - over a pound less than the mikros and my TB-4P - there's the club bass, which is purty, and the violin bass, which is sometimes a little lighter than the club. not as light as the ultra light, not long scale, but sound better than the ultra light, although they come in at a pound and a half heavier. sort of a compromise. sort of. since i can't find a bass that will give me everything i want, i need to prioritize, and that ain't easy since i want two things that don't seem to fully work together. but i really miss those two things, and whatever i get has to work with my shoulder. thoughts?