Ok so i'm going to be getting a distortion/overdrive pedal to take the place of my MXR M80 because i only want to use my DI as a DI and thats it. I'm gonna have my DI separate from my board because all the EQs between my amp head and my DI is just getting excessive and unmanageable. I went to Guitar Center today to try and find an ideal dirt pedal but came back empty handed but i will list what i thought of the pedals i tried along with my opinions on pedals that i have previously/currently own(ed). I'm looking for a dirt box that can do a grindy/gritty over drive to distortion but that you can still hear more than just a wall of distortion/fuzz. Pro Co RAT 2- Lost way too much low end and was just a fuzzy mess Way Huge Green Rhino- Sounded like a farty fuzzy mess that was too dark Ibanez TS9- Too fuzzy and just sounded kinda weird Ibanez TS808- Sounded like a muffled TS9 Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive- It was ok but lost too much low end Boss ODB-3- The best pedal of the pedals i tried today but was kinda fizzy for my taste but it might be better with my rig (my amp has a hefty amount of mids EQed in compared to the on i tried this on) MXR M80- I like the distortion but it can be a little muddy (not that muddy though) and i don't like how the color switch is automatically on with the distortion channel Electro Harmonix Bass Big Muff- Lost to much of my original tone and was only capable of giving me a wall of fuzz or weird sounding clean blend also it didn't work well with a wah pedal Malekko B:ASSMASTER- Over all a good fuzz but not the kinda pedal i would want as my only dirt pedal Boss Metal Zone- Too over the top and unable to get a tame tone Johnson Distortion EQ- Too over the top and muddy Boss Hyper Fuzz- Too over the top and not versatile enough
Find a Sansamp GT-2 to try out. It's not going to be for everybody (hence the test run), but it's extremely versatile. It's been a staple of my pedal collection since about '96 or so.
You're gonna hear "B3K" a lot in this forum but if you're not looking to spend a small fortune on your OD pedal, I'd suggest giving the MXR M89 Bass Overdrive pedal a spin. The M89 is covering all of my overdrive needs quite nicely.
I don't like/need overdrives at all, but the b3k is sincerely the best and only one I have ever liked. /cliche
I can confidently endorse the Fulltone Bass Drive and the JHS Low Drive. Got both of them. I'll run them independently and/or stacked. Sweet glory to my ears!
Was not crazy about any of the pedals you tried for an overdrive. Love the Rat, but it needs a clean blend or a mod to make it more bassy, plus it's pretty intense. There are a lot of really good ones out there. Just not those. Read around on this forum, listen to clips, try a few more pedals...I'd suggest the Tech 21 VT as a good way to get mild-medium OD that won't break the bank.
The list above kind of sums up my experience with those pedals too. Currently 'in stock' I have an ebs multidrive, dod bass overdrive, hardwire tube od, darkglass b3k and vmt, ashdown lomenzo, and others, but these are the ones I keep returning to dependant on band, style, sound etc.... I assume you're looking for a full on drive sound. In short when I tried the b3k, I kicked myself asking why I had waited so long to try it. It covers pretty much most things well and sits beautifully in a full band mix.
I always recommend this and I'll do it just once more Musiciansounddesign 'Silverstone' is the best I have heard by a country mile! A great sounding Pedal and not to expensive either. http://www.silvermachine.de/
When I think of a modern distorted bass sound I think of stacked OD's/ Distortions/ Fuzzes. You should put off selling pedals you acquire and experiment stacking effects in series and parallel. Your ultimate sound might come from a combination of pedals that don't quite work in isolation but sound great together. If I had to chose my favourite single fuzz pedal that sounds great with all my basses I would chose my Wren and Cuff Tall Font Russian.
Well i jumped the gun on an ODB-3 last night after finding one for $30 and figured if i don't like it can sell it or just keep it around. Also i have tried stacking my pedals and the 2 i sold were the johnson distortion eq and the bass big muff and they seemed to only work alone or else it was just a mushy mess that only worked for sludge metal. If i still have the same issues with the ODB-3 though i'll probably get one of the pedals you guys listed. Thanks for all the help and advice.
I agree with everything here.The TFR is my favorite fuzz, and stacking it through the B3K is very satisfying. Currently I'm looking to stack a transparent drive with the B3K as well. I've tried a few non-transparent drives, but nothing has satisfied yet, though the EQD Monarch came really close. I think the Euphoria by Wampler is next on my list. So yeah, I too recommend drive stacking.
Don't forget that stacking overdrive can also occur with amps. I used to record direct a lot with my B3K, but it didn't sound great by itself. In front of my Tech21 Oxford or Liverpool, it was awesome. Now, I put in front of my Gallien Krueger 800RB with the boost turned up to where it sounds "warm" and it sounds even better. When you use two types of OD the tone becomes more complex; even if you are only using a small amount on the last stage of the chain(Tech21 pedals, GK800RB)
It's kind of hard to find a happy medium and sometimes people don't even know what they are looking for exactly until they hear it. I'm partial to the Colorsound Tonebender Fuzz, but it's CRAZY expensive. (like $200-300 expensive). Do you know if you want distortion, fuzz, or overdrive? You may be able to beef up your rat with an EQ pedal after it or a preamp like a VT Bass or the M80 to restore some low-end thump. My VT bass has done wonders for my DS-1, can't wait to try running my soon to be Rat 2.
or run your favorite od with a boss ls-2 or other blender and you'l be able to remove mud or add lows from your clean to your sound...
I have a Nobels ODR-1 I use for overdrive, but its pretty subtle. I almost got rid of my Big Muff, but then I hooked it up after having not used it in 2 years and I loved it more than ever, though its a bit more fuzzy than an overdrive.
Ok well my ODB-3 showed up today and is working with my rig well enough that i'll keep it on my board and don't feel the need to add anything else. It still sounds a little tinny/harsh but its not too bad. Thanks for all the help/advice guys.