Help me get into a band!

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by zeppelinfreak, Jun 26, 2008.

  1. zeppelinfreak


    Mar 29, 2007
    Okay, so heres the deal.

    Theres this awesome band, and there really good (REALLY good). But there bassist...well...have you ever heard someone play bass thats so bad, that its not even bad anymore; its just awkward? Thats their bassist. And they acknowledge how bad he is too.

    So lately theyve been letting me in on stuff. Ive been subbing for him lately when he cant make it, and there having me "guest star" at a few gigs to play songs that the other bassist isnt good enough to play (YYZ in particular).

    But everytime the guitarists and singer talk about replacing him with me, the drummer kinda zones out and ignores it. You see, hes good friends with the current bassist (how is beyond me, hes very conceited) and is reluctant to replace him.

    This is a tough situation cause hes the only capable drummer in my school, AND his basement is more or less a recording studio. His dad is in a pro band, so were lookin at PA, soundboards, 2 drumsets, amps, pedal boards. The only thing i need to bring to rehearsal is a bass. So Id REALLY like to land this gig.

    So other then just being on top of things and outplaying the other bassist, what can I do to get in?
  2. EBodious


    Aug 2, 2006
    i think that if music is going to be a life long passion for you, then this is a golden opportunity. there are things you can control and things you can't. how you handle yourself will determine your reputation, which is a big factor in one's musical success. like it or not, you can't (well shouldn't, in my opinion) "will yourself" into this band. are you considering the perspective of this other bass player or the drummer? to me, your post sounds like you wanna get what you want at any cost. but what if you do get rid of the other bass player? you say that the drummer (and his home) is a key to this band, but how is the drummer gonna feel about having you? it could be a very awkward situation, and that can quickly ruin a good band. it may not feel so good to get in to the band and have it be full of weird politics.

    i think it is important to practice being an open, honest, and fair guy as much as it is to practice your bass. my suggestion is you tell the other guys in the band that you think they are great and you would love to be their bass player IF the opportunity arises (and you are happy to sub). be respectful of the band, and all its current members. and then leave it at that. its up to them, not you.

    consider: 1) band members change over time, be patient even though its hard. 2) be considerate of the other bass player's position for, someday, that might be you.

    good luck
  3. profdannyspit


    Jun 12, 2008
    Just find people in your area and start a new band. You gotta consider the bassist position amongst his friends. Although he might not be good, the people in the band are his friends, right?
  4. zeppelinfreak


    Mar 29, 2007

    This is more or less what Im doing as of now. And it wouldnt be awkward, seeing as Im good friends with everyone in the band already. Its just the drummer is a little indecisive. Im just looking for things I can do to tip the scales even more in my favor.

    Plus the fact that me and the drummer AND one of the guitarists play in the same jazz band at school (the top one), I think the band as a whole would benefit with me. Just because we've developed a rhythmic tightness from playing 5 days a week.
  5. JehuJava

    JehuJava Bass Frequency Technician

    Oct 15, 2002
    Yorktown, VA
    I say wait it out...maybe do a side project in the meantime. That might light a fire under their butts. Forcing yourself in there may cause problems down the road.
  6. OtterOnBass


    Oct 5, 2007
    I agree with the above posts. There's more to being in a band than being the best available bassist. I wouldn't like my 'membership' in the band to rely on the absence of a better bassist.
  7. zero_cool


    Feb 16, 2007
    North Dakota
  8. JehuJava

    JehuJava Bass Frequency Technician

    Oct 15, 2002
    Yorktown, VA

    Don't forget, there's always a better bass player around. I sure would hate to feel that I could be replaced the minute a better bass player asked to take my spot. What if you got replaced by an even better bass player?

    Let the pieces fall into place naturally.
  9. bassfrenzie


    May 26, 2008
    If you push too hard you'll look like a creep.
  10. scootron


    Jul 17, 2007
    Moved to Texas
    Agreed. Keep being patient, and available to fill in as needed. Work on the side when you can. Things will fall into place.
  11. john_g

    john_g Supporting Member

    Sep 14, 2007
    I went through this exact same thing back when I was about 19 or 20 (im 37 now). I met some guys at a large music store...I was there with a guitarist buddy of mine and while he was looking at gear, I grabbed a bass and started jamming quietly (YYZ funny enough) They came up to me and were looking to *possibly* replace their bassist and we swapped contact info.

    I went and jammed with them, subbed a couple times and they were tight (the drummer was downright awesome) and we clicked right away. But, they couldlnt bring themselves to bounce this original bassist completely out of the picture. So, it turned into a couple of years of BS of me working with them off and on and trying to get in to play full time with them. Total waste of my time.

    I look at it like they are a hot girl that already has a boyfriend, and shes not entirely happy with him but cant bring herself to dump him (been there way too many times too!). Bottom line...if this hot girl really wanted to be with you, she would be. And there are plenty of other hot girls out there that you wont need to go through this BS for.
  12. ilikethump


    Jun 17, 2008

    I fully admit that I may not be the best bassist in the world, but I have been working with my band for some time now, even writing full songs and helping bandmates out with personal stuff. We've been through a fair amount. If some random joe schmoe who had been playing longer than I had walked up and they said "Sorry mate, but this guy is a bit better than you you gotta go" I... well, I honestly don't know what I'd do. Most people won't pull the trigger like that on someone they've been playing with for a while... so while they may think that you're great, unless the current bassist REALLY screws up they may just keep you on the side. I'd start up your own project and still play with them when they need you.