Help me pair a head for this cab

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Groovin1122, Jun 9, 2020.

  1. Groovin1122


    Apr 16, 2020
    This Avatar B410 features four Custom Eminence Deltalite II 2510 250w 10’s with black carpet and metal grill. 4×16 ohm wired all parallel for 1000w 4 ohm cab. (the used one is 8ohm, not 4ohm)

    Found one used for $100 but it's an 8ohm cab not 4ohm.
    B410 DeltaLite II SPECIAL – Avatar Speakers

    Would a 500w 4ohm amp fit my needs? Like a Peavy minimax? Or a TC Electronic Thrust BQ500? Other thoughts/ideas? Thank you. Amps and Cabs seem to be a very complicated subject.
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  2. mmbongo

    mmbongo I have too many basses. Supporting Member

    I would suggest going ahead and buying an amp that you won't want to replace in 6 months.

    Mesa D800
    Quilter Bass Block 800
    Genzler Magellan 800

    I would lean towards the Mesa's Mesa! And it's 2 ohm stable so you can add a 2nd cab if you need to.
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  3. lug

    lug Supporting Member

    Feb 11, 2005
    League City, Tx
    Yes to either amp.
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  4. Groovin1122


    Apr 16, 2020
    The whole RMS thing confuses me. I hear that the Mesa has 400W RMS at 8 ohms. How will that play into a cab that is a 1000watt 8 ohms?
  5. mmbongo

    mmbongo I have too many basses. Supporting Member

    It depends..what cab exactly?
  6. Groovin1122


    Apr 16, 2020
  7. Blues Bass 2

    Blues Bass 2 Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2001
    Davenport Iowa
    The cab doesn't need 1000 watts it will just be able to take it . It should be able to handle all the power at 8 ohms that the Mesa can put out . What is more important is how sensitive the Avatar cabinet is or how much SPL it will put out for 1 watt RMS . Any of the amps you have mentioned will be fine with that cab . The best thing to do is try a few and see what one you like the tone of .
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  8. Groovin1122


    Apr 16, 2020
    Ya lost me here
  9. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    Also with the Mesa you get known long-view customer service if you ever need it. You can't go wrong.
  10. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    And as follow up, just like that there are a couple WD-800 Mesa heads in the classified here. Figured some would pop up with their new model launch.
  11. Groovin1122


    Apr 16, 2020
    So if I get the Mesa with 800 watts at 4 ohms. Will that hurt an 8-ohm amp at 1000 watts? This impedance stuff makes my head spin.

    I am going to be playing outdoor gigs, farmers markets, bars, fairs maybe even a casino (with pa support) I won't be touring. I just don't want to blow anything up!!
  12. And I

    And I

    Feb 19, 2009
    Witchtown, MA
    The amp runs at 800 watts with a 4 ohm load and 400 watts with an 8 ohm load. If you plug it into an 8 ohm cabinet, the amp will produce 400 watts. The cabinet can handle 1000 watts, but it will do fine with 400. You're not going to hurt the amp or the cab this way.
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  13. Pulverizor


    Jun 14, 2018
    New Zealand
    Fender Rumble 800 HD.
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  14. jeff7bass

    jeff7bass Inactive

    Apr 9, 2009
    500w @ 4 ohms is plenty. Means it's around 300w at 4. If the high-end amps above are too pricey, the Ashdown RM-500-EVO, Bugera Veyron M and Tech 21 VT Bass 500 are great amps. For even less the Peavey Minimax is nice. The TCE Thrust 500 is only 250 bucks. Not sure how good it is.
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2020
  15. jeff7bass

    jeff7bass Inactive

    Apr 9, 2009
    IS the Rumble 500 head gone? Looks like everybody is out of them.
  16. jeff7bass

    jeff7bass Inactive

    Apr 9, 2009
  17. Thegrandwazoo

    Thegrandwazoo Supporting Member

    Sep 8, 2013
    West Virginia
    I'm me, so I'm going to wholeheartedly suggest a Gallien Krueger. Any Gallien Krueger over 200 watts, really, I've never played any G-K that didn't sound like a G-K, and I've played most of what they've made at one point or another. Distinctive, yet versatile, and notoriously indestructible with a lot of punch and (for want of a better term) 'balls'. I've always played them, mostly exclusively, and I always will.
  18. JeezyMcNuggles

    JeezyMcNuggles Supporting Member

    Feb 23, 2018
    Santa Maria, CA
    I suck, but nobody really notices
    Anything will. You've got 4 killer 10s in a box. Anything you want will suit your needs. *cough cough* SVT *cough cough*
  19. Kukulkan61

    Kukulkan61 Inactive

    Feb 8, 2011
    Northern Arizona
    This was one of the loudest punchiest rigs I ever owned 4 ohm.!! AA3DDCC7-F6EB-4EBF-9799-21EA4973E28F.jpeg
  20. Rip Van Dan

    Rip Van Dan DNA Endorsing Artist Supporting Member

    Feb 2, 2009
    Duvall, WA
    I'd suggest you check out the DNA-800 amp. It's got 800-watts available for you to use if you need it and street price is $799. It has all the normal bells and whistles along with a a built-in compressor with adjustable Threshold and Ratio controls. Plus, it weighs only 4.8-lbs. - very easy to transport.

    If you want more than that, then the DNA-1350, which is 1350-watts rms and 7-lbs in weight. It has more features than the DNA800, but it's almost twice the price and you probably won't need nearly that much power with your 410 cab.

    Here's a review of the DNA-800 by Bass Musician Magazine. I've cued it up to the part where he goes through the amp. He's playing it through a DNS-210 cab.