help! which pups?

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by Phat Ham, Mar 26, 2001.

  1. Phat Ham

    Phat Ham

    Feb 13, 2000
    Ok I'm probably going to end up getting a custom bass this summer but I don't know what kind of pickups I want. I'll probably be getting the bartolini 18volt preamp in the bass, but nothing is set in stone. What I'm looking for is versatility. I want to be able to get anything from a big fat j-bass tone to a modern grand piano type of tone.

    Right now the combination of a Musicman style humbucker in the bridge position along with a jazz type pup in the neck position is very interesting to me. If anyone has experience with this configuration or suggests any other configuration please post.
  2. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    Phat - I'm looking, too, but just for a MusicMan, humbucker style that's thick and brutal. Right now, I'm looking at Rio Grande for that. I'm happy with my Carvin J99, though.

    As for the grand piano sound, if you're referring to that "clang." Lindy Fralins are noted for those.
  3. notduane


    Nov 24, 2000
    Mr. Rick :) . You mean the "Powerbucker" ?
    Switching options out the ying-yang? even with one? :eek:

    mmmmm...tantric J's :p
  4. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    notduane -The little I've found on it from owners makes it sound like a honey. I have to read up on my pot ohms, (i.e., pot ohms and sound), and see if there might be a happy marriage. All I know is that the bucker that Carvin describes as "thick, monsterous tone," has got to go. I've yet to look into Aero's.

    If you have any humbucker faves, let me know, if you aren't playing that RA when you aren't cooking code.
  5. notduane


    Nov 24, 2000
    There are some pics of the old Ranger and Medley models at the
    Robin Guitars website. No specs - jus pics of basses with
    Powerbucker(s). I think it's under "history".

    Are you lookin to replace the MM in your Carvin OR do a
    ground-up/custom thang? I dunno if the Powerbucker'd be
    a drop-in for the MM.

    Custom? Don't forget...There's a fiver version of the Power-B.
    Both come in neck & bridge "sets" as well (ol' string spacin thang).
    Hmmm...dunno if I could really help. I DO like the "even-ness" of
    the DiMarzio Split-P I put on my cheapie Yammer `260F. Each section
    is actually a humbucker unto itself. You can wire it series or parallel -
    not much difference. If ya REALLY wanna futz it up, you can
    send the E/A and the D/G elements to DIFFERENT outputs :eek: .

    I like the original :D pups on my Ripper...dang...gimme
    a minute...OH! I contacted DiMarzio to see if they still made the X2NB.
    The one with humongous blade polepieces that can affect the
    orbits of nearby planets? Anyhoo, they DO still sell it through dealers.
    S'posed to fit into a "normal" G**t*r humbucker cut-out. If it's output
    is anything like the X2N (~500mV)...:eek:
    "cookin code" :D Tha's a good un! As in "spaghetti" ? ;)

    Your barb-arous slings and arrows cannot affect me, errant ka-night :p .
    For you sig is NO joke*'s in the works :eek: mwah-ha-ha-ha .

    mmmmmm...Dual Fishmans :)

    * (unless ya click it :D )
  6. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    notduane - Thanks so much, (as usual). I'll answer here instead of e-mailing, since this may be of help to Phat.

    I received an e-mail from Rolph's (custom pups) the other day but they only make pups for 4's. I'd rather do something that's not ground up, unless the sound is truly unique, (i.e., how many ways can you wind wire, really?).

    The Power B might be the way to go. I just haven't had a clue as to how they sound though. Nice name, "POWER B!" Thanks.
  7. notduane


    Nov 24, 2000
    :eek: AHH !...Ohhh, I dunno...let's ask Seymour Duncan.
    I think he may have a variation or TWO :p .
    I know the feller in the Fabulous T-Birds used a Robin on occasion.
    Can't say if it had Powerbuckers.
    That ain't the name...I wuz bein lazee wit the spellin :p .

    Don't make me turn mullet_head_81 here :D...
    it's "Powerbucker" ™ © reg us. pat. off.
  8. notduane


    Nov 24, 2000
    I was rootin around the ampeg sight recently to see if they
    still made 4x8's :( . Anyhoo, I stumbled `cross their AMB1 bass...
    Short (30") scale, 24 frets :eek:, basswood bod, rock maple
    neck, etc. The thing is, they use a S/D SMB-4d M/M type
    pup in PASSIVE mode - vol & tone, and a coil switch.
    This may be somethin' to consider as a replacement in your
    Carvin if it's got that passive/active switch thang :) .

    I think this is the "Josie & The Pussycats" color scheme :p ...

  9. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

  10. Phat Ham

    Phat Ham

    Feb 13, 2000
    Oh yeah I forgot to mention its gonna be a 5 string.
  11. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    We're on the same page, Phat. I'm after a 5'er, too.
  12. notduane


    Nov 24, 2000
    2 more ¢ :rolleyes: ...

    FYI guys: You already know there are J's, MM's, and
    Soapbars for 5's. Bart makes a bunch of active AND passive
    P-types and P/J sets for fivers...

    5 string P-Bass pickups

    58Sxx - deep, smooth tone with lots of lows and low mids
    (64 to 72 mm string width)
    58STxx - bright, smooth tone with good lows and low mids
    (64 to 72 mm string width)
    58SUxx - brighter smooth tone with more lows and low mids than the originals
    (64 to 72 mm string width)

    5 string Active P-Bass pickups


    5 string P-J pickups

    58Sxx + 59J-L1
    58SUxx + 59J-L1
    58SUxx + 59J-L4
    58W71 + 59W74-L

    5 string Active P-J pickups

    58TCxx + 59J-L1
    58TCxx + 59J-L4
  13. Phat Ham

    Phat Ham

    Feb 13, 2000
    notduane, thanks for the info, but I don't think I want a P pickup. I'm looking at either two soapbars or a MM + jazz setup.

    Bartolini just has so many different models of pickups that I don't know where to start. Does Bartolini make a MM style pickup? And if it does what would be a good jazz pup to put in the neck position to go along with the MM pup?
  14. notduane


    Nov 24, 2000
    Oops! okie-dokie :)
    :eek: A bunch. With and without "ears" (mounting tabs).
    Tone-wise?...ain't messed with em (sorry). I'm pretty sure
    the (Manring) Hyperbass and Tobias Growler use the Bart
    quad-coil MM (quint coil?). All kinds o' options there.

    Click here for the Bart "short list".

    (with tabs) 72MM5C, 72MM5K, 72MM5X, 72MM5E, 72MM5EX

    (without) 72MV5C, 72MV5K, 72MV5CX, 72MV5E, 72MV5EX
    Jeez, sorry. I can't help ya out here either. I ain't started futzin'
    with my MIM Fretless J (yet :p ). There was a good article in BP
    a while back i.e., a J pup shoot-out.

    Maybe get some ideas there :) .