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Help with processing dirty recorded snare signal

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by andruca, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. andruca


    Mar 31, 2004
    Madrid (Spain)
    Hi everybody! Haven't showed up much here for years (altho' still check TB's forums regularly). Need some help from fellow techs/engineers around. To any moderator, if this doesn't belong here, please move it to the apropriate sub-forum and sorry for the mess in advance, just didn't think the recordings sub-forum was suitable for asking advice on drums.

    Thing is I'm currently doing some self-production for one of my HC bands. We recorded drums at a studio last week and intend to finish this at home on Cubase. Back there I noticed miking for the snare drum wasn't as close as I'm used to (2 mics) but didn't dare question the (way more skilled for the task) tech there, just dropped it once, monitored sound was OK so just didn't insist. First step for me is usually to gate drum element mics and cut low freq from overheads and hi-hat mics to increase separation. But I'm affraid this snare sound is beyond my skill. I can dampen the bleeding enough with gates but still the sound is "small", you know, like the guy is hitting it softly. I tried to gate it more heavily so I could then compress it without raising the bleeding too much, but compression really did little for the tone itself as I was expecting. I think it lacks the transient on the mic's membrane, I presume, because of miking distance, but might be wrong. Played with EQ, but couldn't find anything satisfactory.

    Just for reference. Here's the same drummer on a previous (much less "produced") demo so you can get a feel for how the guy punishes his drumkit (also recorded on Cubase, no sound replacing on the snare -nor any other thing-)...


    And these are both snare mic signals for one of the tracks we recorded last week...


    This is the first track I'm working on, trying to find the guidelines for the drum sound which I'll apply as the basis for all the (16) remaining tracks. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated and a saving hand for me at this point. Thanks so much guys and girls!