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Hercules Guitar Stands Safe For Nitro?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by HiEnd Basses, Jan 3, 2017.

  1. HiEnd Basses

    HiEnd Basses

    Mar 4, 2016
    I'm hearing that Hercules Guitar Stands are all safe for nitrocellulose lacquer. Does anyone know if this is accurate?
  2. guitarflinger

    guitarflinger Not all who wander are lost Supporting Member

    Oct 19, 2013
    Front Range, Colorado
    My local music store, which carries a goodly number of Taylor acoustics and Fender electrics, displays them all on Hercules hangers. I have just hung my whole collection on these. I would assume the material is similar to their stands.
  3. 5544


    Dec 1, 2015
    Wait a minute here...

    People pay extra money for "Fender Relics" and "Fender Road worn" but the value plummets if there is a mark on the back of the instrument because it was on a stand :help:
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  4. Gravedigger Dav

    Gravedigger Dav Supporting Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    Fort Worth, Texas
    I had a Hercules double stand. In a short period, both of the mechanism failed and were seriously out of alignment. Tracking down any customer service from them was a futile exercise. Luckily, GC took them back and I replace with a couple of Ultimate 100s, a much better stand.
  5. Neoprene staining isn't period correct.
  6. HiEnd Basses

    HiEnd Basses

    Mar 4, 2016
    But is it safe for nitrocellulose?
  7. FronTowardEnemy

    FronTowardEnemy It is better to go unnoticed, than to suck Supporting Member

    Sep 19, 2006
    Plainfield Illinois
    I too have the Hercules double stand. I used it for about 200 gigs so far without fail.

    I hang my bass on one side and one of my guitarist hangs his guitar on the other side.

    I don't know if it is safe for nitro. Wouldn't see why not.

    Contact Hercules?
  8. guy n. cognito

    guy n. cognito Secret Agent Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Nashville, TN
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  9. guy n. cognito

    guy n. cognito Secret Agent Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Nashville, TN

    Ultimate Guitar stand GS-100 failure! Warning!!
  10. Gravedigger Dav

    Gravedigger Dav Supporting Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    Fort Worth, Texas
  11. Gravedigger Dav

    Gravedigger Dav Supporting Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    Fort Worth, Texas
    Good luck contacting them.
  12. fingerguy


    Aug 2, 2016
    Yup. Plus I am DEAD SET AGAINST pre-worn. Naturally worn from actual use I am okay with. But pre-worn is just tacky!
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  13. FantasticFour


    Dec 14, 2013
    I have a K&M Guardian stand that's guaranteed safe for nitro. The parts in contact with the basses are made of transparent plastic.
    I like my nitro pristine :D

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  14. Ewo

    Ewo a/k/a Steve Cooper Supporting Member

    Apr 2, 2008
    Huntington WV
    i've got a couple Hercules stands, and a couple sadowsky basses with satin nitro on their necks. haven't noticed any marking on the necks from the stands. but you could easily drape a small piece of cloth over the yoke of the stand, just to make sure.
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  15. beatlebass64

    beatlebass64 Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2011
    New Hampshire
    I don't have experience with the Hercules stands, but I own a D+A Starfish+ and it is by far the best stand I've ever used. The website says it is safe for all finishes.

    STARFISH +™ Active
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  16. physics


    Aug 7, 2009
    Berkeley, CA
    My bass has a glossy nitro finish and I got a Hercules stand for it, after I had confirmed the compatibility of the nitro finish with the synthetic rubber cushions on the yoke. I checked with the manufacturer and did research on the web.

    To be safe though, I did cut up an old wool sock and that covers the yoke. The cushions on the legs of the stand do contact the nitro finish on the back bottom of my bass.

    I've had this setup for about a year and I've had no problems whatsoever.
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  17. HiEnd Basses

    HiEnd Basses

    Mar 4, 2016
    I just checked out the D&A Starfish Guitar Stands. Why wouldn't everyone want to use these exclusively?!
  18. Hercules Stands

    Hercules Stands Commercial User

    Mar 12, 2018
    Mt. Juliet, TN
    Hercules Stands
    Old thread, I know, but I want to make sure that everyone knows that in the USA, Hercules Stands have a lifetime warranty. Other manufacturers with a "lifetime" warranty cap it at 7 years.
    If your stand fails due to a manufacturing defect (like what was described in the OP) contact us at service.usa@khsmusic.com. I'm sorry if you've had trouble contacting us in the past.
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  19. Giffro


    Apr 29, 2017
    South Australia
    I have had my Hercules 5 space rack/stand for a few years now and even though the stand is rated as safe for all finishes including nitro, I have read enough about foam, vinyl and rubber etc leeching into guitar paint finishes and ruining them, so I decided to opt on the side of caution. I bought a heap of felt to cut into 10 pieces and velcro around the foam on the base of the stand where the guitars sit on the foam bottom. You can never be too careful when dealing with the finish on your bass guitar wether it be Nitro or Poly finished.
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  20. Hercules Stands

    Hercules Stands Commercial User

    Mar 12, 2018
    Mt. Juliet, TN
    Hercules Stands
    We go through a significant amount of testing to make sure our "SFF" (Specially Formulated Foam) is safe for all finishes. I read something in another thread that made a lot of sense to me. New guitars are shipped before a nitro finish is fully cured or dry which can take 6 months or so. That beautiful smell when you open up a new Les Paul case for the first time is the fumes from a not-quite-dry nitro smell. That being said, just about anything that rests on a relatively new nitro finish can mar it in some way. I was playing my new Les Paul Custom while wearing a black, long-sleeved shirt. Guess who's Les Paul has soaked in the dye from the shirt? This same 2007 Les Paul has been sitting on a Hercules AGS yoke just about every day for the past couple of years with no problems.
    The same goes for a poly finish, but the dry-time for poly is much shorter.

    I like to think of it like this. A nitro finish is like the chocolate coating that goes on an ice cream cone. It will eventually harden, but it takes some time. The poly finish is the candy coating on a Skittle or m&m. Not indestructible, but certainly a lot harder than that chocolate shell on the soft-serve cone.

    I'm not a dummy when it comes to finishes, but I don't consider myself the world's foremost expert either. So, you know, grain of salt.
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