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hey! my identity was stolen! cool!

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by xcental34x, Mar 14, 2006.


  1. xcental34x

    xcental34x

    Feb 28, 2003
    Memphrica, TN
    I received a letter last week from my former employer, Verizon Business, telling me that 2 laptops were stolen from their building, and they may have contained my personal information on them. As a consolation, I was given a complimentary 2 year membership to some credit monitoring service offered by Experian. I didn't think too much of it, but I activated my membership just for the heck of it.

    When I returned home tonight, and checked my e-mail, I recieved a Paypal confirmation e-mail for the Pink Motorola RAZR v3 cell phone that I had ordered. There's only one problem: I didn't order a Motorola cell phone. The shipping address was to someone in Maine by the name of Bill Chang. I disputed the transaction and my account will not be charged. After this, I changed my PayPal password, called my bank and deactivated my debit card, and even changed my e-mail address. I attempted to search for a phone number for this Bill Chang person. I used whitepages.com and the local Maine directory assitance number, but they came up with no match, although the DA operator said there was an unlisted Bill Chang. I then proceeded to attempt and look up this address using Google Earth and Yahoo! Maps, but I came up with nothing. I know this Bill Chang is either 1 of 2 types of people: 1. a straight out scammer or 2. an unsuspecting, trusting patsy who is forwarding these stolen goods out of the country to the actual scammer (likely Nigeria or Ghana).

    I'm not quite sure where to go from here. What else can I do? I'm wanting to contact the authorities about this, but I don't know which agency to get in touch with. Federal or local? Does anyone have any advice? Has this happened to anyone else before? What did you do about it? Any other advice as to what I should do to possibly prevent anymore possible fraud from this person?
     
  2. Shawnost

    Shawnost It's all about the Hamiltons baby! Supporting Member

    Sep 25, 2004
    Huntersville, NC
    Holy $h*t, man! That really sucks. Your best bet is to start here

    I had a scary incident with this kind of stuff a few years back about 2 months before I was to close on my first home, needless to say I was not a happy camper! :mad: :mad: Damn, this is why I check my credit scores at least once a year, you just can't be too careful!

    Best of luck with getting things resolved and back in order, hopefully you caught things before they got too far.

    Shawn
     
  3. I believe the word you are looking for is consolation, not constellation. That makes for a very interesting mental image.

    It's a good thing that you activated that credit monitoring thing. You coulda been ROYALLY screwed with that one.

    I would suggest going with federal on this. Since it's a crime that was committed across state lines using a computer, it's in federal jurisdiction. I think. I could be all wrong on that. Computer crime law confuses me.

    Rock on
    Eric
     
  4. xcental34x

    xcental34x

    Feb 28, 2003
    Memphrica, TN
    Haha. Eric, I think you're right on the grammar correction. I'm an idiot with words sometimes.

    I plan on making a few phone calls tomorrow. 1. To Verizon to find out what information of mine was stored on those computers. 2. To Experian to retrieve my password for my account to make sure nothing pops up on my credit report. 3. To the proper law enforcement agency to report this and give this address.

    Shawn, thanks for the link. That is a big help. I would have neglected all those steps had I not seen that site. I prevented this transaction from going through, and I think I changed my information in enough time to prevent any further damage, but I'm going to be on the look out. Being without a debit card for a couple of weeks is going to make this a lot easier.

    Another odd thing that I'm not sure is worth mentioning or not, but the online store where this order was placed doesn't seem to exist. The address that the Paypal receipt was from read sales@lwpelectronics.com. So I tried looking up lwp electronics, and I came up with nothing. No website, no company name on Yahoo or Google. Should I be concerned about this?
     
  5. craigb

    craigb G&L churnmeister Supporting Member

    Did your paypal account show an actual transaction?

    I'm guessing not. You probably just got a standard "phishing" email. The email probably had links to paypal in it - and if you followed those and entered your password then the phishers have it. I get those all the time and just delete them. If you look carefully at the source of the page with the links (and know some HTML) you can amuse yourself with the different ways they construct URLs to make it look like one thing and direct you somewhere else.

    If your paypal account showed the transaction then somebody got your paypal password. I doubt if Verizon had your paypal password. Most likely the stolen laptops had things like your SSN, address and the like (definitely monitor your credit report for people using your identity for credit).
     
  6. DaftCat

    DaftCat

    Jul 26, 2004
    Medicine Hat
    xcental34x,

    If you need some help with your ID theft let me know. I have some experience in what to do about this. Here is the info on that email you mentioned.

    Good luck,

    DCat



    ========================================================
    WHOIS results for 204.13.161.23 (lwpelectronics.com)
    Location: United States [City: Los Angeles, California]

    NOTE: More information appears to be available at OVERS-ARIN.

    OrgName: Oversee.net
    OrgID: OVERS-1
    Address: 818 W 7th Street
    Address: Suite 700
    City: Los Angeles
    StateProv: CA
    PostalCode: 90017
    Country: US

    NetRange: 204.13.160.0 - 204.13.163.255
    CIDR: 204.13.160.0/22
    NetName: OVERSEE-NET-01
    NetHandle: NET-204-13-160-0-1
    Parent: NET-204-0-0-0-0
    NetType: Direct Assignment
    NameServer: NS1.OVERSEE.NET
    NameServer: NS2.OVERSEE.NET
    Comment:
    RegDate: 2005-04-21
    Updated: 2005-04-21

    RTechHandle: OVERS-ARIN
    RTechName: Oversee NOC
    RTechPhone: +1-213-408-0080
    RTechEmail: *******@oversee.net

    OrgTechHandle: OVERS-ARIN
    OrgTechName: Oversee NOC
    OrgTechPhone: +1-213-408-0080
    OrgTechEmail: *******@oversee.net

    # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2006-03-14 19:10
    # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
    ========================================================
    Domain Name: lwpelectronics.com

    Registrant
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Name: admin -
    Organization: Chesterton Holdings
    Email: Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
    Address: 655 Flower St
    #254
    City, Province, Post Code: Los Angeles, CA, 90017
    Country: US
    Phone: 213-407-1774

    Admin Contact
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Name: admin -
    Organization: Chesterton Holdings
    Email: Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
    Address: 655 Flower St
    #254
    City, Province, Post Code: Los Angeles, CA, 90017
    Country: US
    Phone: 213-407-1774

    Billing Contact
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Name: admin -
    Organization: Chesterton Holdings
    Email: Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
    Address: 655 Flower St
    #254
    City, Province, Post Code: Los Angeles, CA, 90017
    Country: US
    Phone: 213-407-1774

    Tech Contact
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Name: admin -
    Organization: Chesterton Holdings
    Email: Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
    Address: 655 Flower St
    #254
    City, Province, Post Code: Los Angeles, CA, 90017
    Country: US
    Phone: 213-407-1774


    Creation Date: 03/14/06
    Expiration Date: 03/14/07
    Domain Status: ACTIVE


    Domain Servers
    ns1.proredirect.com
    ns2.proredirect.com
    ========================================================
     
  7. xcental34x

    xcental34x

    Feb 28, 2003
    Memphrica, TN
    Wow. You just made me realize how worse this actually is. Yes, the transaction is not visible in my actual PayPal account, and I did fall for it. Whomever it is now has my address, debit card number, and PayPal password. I can't belive I could have so stupid! Luckily the first 2 steps after finding this e-mail were changing my account password, deleting my bank account and debit card from my PayPal account, and then deactivating my debit card. So now I have to worry about them applying for credit in my name, which I'll be sure to monitor this.

    What upsets me most is that I've heard about these kinds of e-mails. I've known about them and how to identify them, but I was too quick to call out "scam" and assume some scammer had hijacked my account that I didn't realize I was being fooled into providing my information. :scowl:
     
  8. xcental34x

    xcental34x

    Feb 28, 2003
    Memphrica, TN

    I'm not quite sure what to make out of this information. Do you think the person behind the e-mail had this domain registered to them or is it just a cover? When you visit the website it takes you to a generic search site. It seems like just a cover.
     
  9. DaftCat

    DaftCat

    Jul 26, 2004
    Medicine Hat
    Let the appropriate police department figure that out. This is a federal crime. Call the local police and find out who you report your ID theft to. Do take this matter seriously.

    I don't know all your facts on this but best to be safe than sorry. Read this: http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/03/14/landslide-porn060314.html

    DCat,
     
  10. morf

    morf Banned

    Feb 17, 2006
    I make it a principle not to click on a link in ANY email. If you want to access PayPal, eBay or anything else, open your web browser manually and always type in the address yourself.
     
  11. BassChuck

    BassChuck

    Nov 15, 2005
    Cincinnati
    I've never known anyone who has had their idenity stolen.

    However... I think someone stole our drummers personality.
     
  12. craigb

    craigb G&L churnmeister Supporting Member

    Yep, that's the way to do it. If you have any valid issues with ebay, paypal, your bank or whatever they'll have a way for you to deal with it after yo go directly to them and log in.
     
  13. MJ5150

    MJ5150 Terrific Twister

    Apr 12, 2001
    Lacey, WA
    I think he was hoping one of us was going to jump in and offer to do some investigation for him. :D

    -Mike
     
  14. xcental34x

    xcental34x

    Feb 28, 2003
    Memphrica, TN
    Yeah. That's what I wanted.

    And by the way, my bank account number is 00130432704. What can you tell me from that? :confused:
     
  15. MJ5150

    MJ5150 Terrific Twister

    Apr 12, 2001
    Lacey, WA
    Sweet. I'm doing some checking around for you right now.

    -Mike
     
  16. burgerme

    burgerme

    Mar 3, 2006
    Ok, I work for a "Federal Agency" which shall remain nameless (ever seen those posters, "I'm with the Government - I'm here to help?"), and you guys are right, it is technically a Federal crime.

    But (to quote PeeWee's Big Adventure, "Everyone has a big But"), I'll tell you what the Federal Agency is most likely going to tell you, and what I (unfortunately) have to tell people on a daily basis.

    Even tho you are definitely a victim, there are SO many of these crimes, they cannot possibly all be followed up on with the number of agents that the respective agencies employ. In fact, the AUSA's (Assistant US Attorney) in my area will basically not prosecute on anything less than a $20,000 dollar property loss, unless the bad guy pleads guilty and signs a confession. Even then it's not a for sure - it depends on their week and if they have time to fill out the papers.

    So, that means it basically costs someone $20,000 for an investigator to look into it.

    Your best bet is to go to the locals (I used to be one of those) and see if they will help. Which they may not want/have time to do either, but it's worth a shot.

    Sorry, I know it sucks. The big problem is that the guys doing these scams know how it works, and know it's almost impossible for them to get caught.

    Good luck - if you have any other questions, feel free to PM me...