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High end cables

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Davidoc, Dec 8, 2001.


  1. What cable to you think sounds... teh best..., if it makes a difference at all. Monster 1000, Fender pro-tone, planet waves, etc.

    How do you think high end cables stack up? Do they make a difference? Which do you think is better sounding?
     
  2. HeavyDuty

    HeavyDuty Supporting Curmudgeon Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Suburban Chicago, IL
    I'm happy with my George L's.

    No way I'd spend the money on Monster Cables - I A/B'ed them up at the store with George L's, and both sounded the same. There was a difference between the cheap cloth-covered cables and both Monster and George L's.

    I would like to check out the new Planet Wave cables that have the spring contact plugs, although I suspect they're just introducing a bunch more contact points to oxidize and crackle over time.
     
  3. nanook

    nanook

    Feb 9, 2000
    Alaska
    If you are talking about instrument cables, I like any of the good quality, flexable, shielded cables. Monsters are fine.

    For speaker cables I like 14 gauge braded wire with speakon connectors on the speaker end and 1/4" plug ins on the amp end. Again the brand is less important than the quality.
     
  4. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I vote for Tara Labs. They just seem to work a little better than anything else I've tried.
     
  5. gweimer

    gweimer

    Apr 6, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    After using the same cable for almost 20 years, it fell apart as I was plugging it in to my Hamer. I ended up having to replace the jack (long story...), but I took the plunge on a Planet Waves cable. So far, so good. I couldn't see spending so much more for the Monster, and others here (and another board) said that they felt the price was a bit high for what you got.
     
  6. if you have a 20 foot good cable and a 6 foot generic cable the generic cable will crush 20 foot cable in tone difference
     
  7. Joe Nerve

    Joe Nerve Supporting Member

    Oct 7, 2000
    New York City
    Endorsing artist: Musicman basses, Hipshot products
    I buy $20 cables and never seem to have any problem. I bought a real expensive one once, and it kept tangling up big time (forgot what it was) - I returned it, got a cheap one, a whole bunch of money back, and I'm happy.
     
  8. HeavyDuty

    HeavyDuty Supporting Curmudgeon Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Suburban Chicago, IL
    That's the best part about George L's! They're high end cables, but they don't cost a lot. And you make them to suit, in just the length you want.

    I just bought another one the other day for my new Jazz (I keep a cable in each case). A 12 footer cost me less than $15. And the modular design means I can always replace ends in less than a minute!

    Try them - you may like them. Most dealers (around here, anyway) stock their stuff - look for the cable reel and connector display.

    http://www.georgels.com/
     
  9. Brad Barker

    Brad Barker Supporting Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    berkeley, ca
    I'd read that it isn't such a good idea to use George L's in "active stage use," however. does that only apply to the "make your own cable length" George L's?
     
  10. I make my own cables. no factory-made cable can be compared to them
     
  11. BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    Monster Bass have good harmonic response, as well as giving a clean, beefy low end, no tone loss at all. Good cable, check it out.
     
  12. Lifetime guarantee.
    The "make your own" and prepacked cables are essentialy the same.

    The smaller diameter (.155) GL's tend to curl and kink if you move around. I don't know about the larger ones. I use the Planet Wave's 20 footer for my stage cable and the GL's for the efx loop.
     
  13. HeavyDuty

    HeavyDuty Supporting Curmudgeon Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Suburban Chicago, IL
    I've noticed my George L's get more limber with use - have you? They are kinda stiff when new...
     
  14. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    George L's work great for situations where you are going to plug the cable in and leave it, such as in a rack or a studio environment.

    I bought 15' of cable and 2 ends back when they first came out, and tried using them live. Every 3 or 4 shows the ground would start messing up and I would have to either turn the cable in the connector to a new spot and tighten the screw down, or cut a little off of the end and put the connector back on. I finally got tired of the hassle and gave the cable(which had since lost about 18" of its length) to a guitarist who forgot his cable and told him that he could have it.
     
  15. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    For instrument cables, I use Monster Standard 100. They sound fine and I love their connectors and rubber stuff on the cable. They are very flexible and easy to coil. This is the reason why I spent $20 on them; I love their casing and stuff. It is great.

    For speaker cables, I suggest you make your own. Dont use anything thicker than 12 gauge it is overkill and is hard to work with. Dont use anything thinner than 16 gauge either. Use speakons whenever you can, I prefer Neutrik just because they invented the speakon connector and Im used to them. The Switchcraft ones are probably good too, but I dont trust them yet. The only good thing about buying that clear amber monster speaker cable that they sell at Circuit City is it smells really good. :D

    And remember the following about cables:
    • never use instrument cables to hook up amps + cabs, unless you are cold and want to heat up your cables :confused:
    • you can safely do visa-versa, (plug your bass into your amp with speaker cable) but it will be really noisy.
    • make sure you wire your speakon connectors right. if you're bridging an amp, you need a 4 conductor one. Wire it so that conductor +1 is positive and conductor +2 is negative.
     
  16. Eric Moesle

    Eric Moesle Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2001
    Columbus OH
    About 6 years ago, just on a whim, I bought one of those $50+ Monster Bass cables, just to see for myself. While I can't hear a difference in sound, that sucker hasn't failed me in 6 years, and is still going strong, despite an average of about 2 gigs a week.

    I've never had a cable last so long without failing.
     
  17. Dunno, I've only had them a month. I tried for two rehearsals and one gig to use them. I just couldn't get used to way it kind of curled and dangled.

    Part of it is that after 24 years of playing, my onstage cable management is pretty automatic. But it depends on a heavy cable. I relegated the George L's to my effects loop, then ran into the ground problem that Jeff had. Mine was intermittant and really drove me crazy, but I'm going to try them there a few more shows (I've got a cable tester now as well as back up cables).