I was wondering if anyone's heard of this group? It was a band put together by John Reis (Speedo of RFTC) and Rick Froberg (who,like Reis was in Drive like Jehu) along with Gar Wood and Jason Kourkounis (of Delta 72 fame). They put out a couple of albums. They're a little weird, and are just a side project (no touring for them). I picked up their album on a whim and listened through it. The first half didn't really grab me, but it got more interesting. The second half has some pretty solid rock songs. Solid enough to warrant a second listen. They seem like the kind of band all the nouveau-emo kids and rockers would like. They have that early 90's alternative feel mixed with underground hardcore. Reminiscent of Dinosaur Jr. (but aren't they all). Also, Kill Sadie, are worth checking out.